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Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:54:09 -0600
Reply-To:     Miguel Pacheco <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Miguel Pacheco <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Very Interesting Fire Suppression System
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <01bc01ce752d$efd22d70$cf768850$@gmail.com>
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I installed the one posted by joseph928 on thesamba http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=521827 These have been used by NASCAR teams and some have been installed in our rigs. This was good enough for me and I installed one in my Syncro SVX without testing engine compartment temps. I have the cylinder sitting upright, over the engine, next to the DS D Pillar. This mounting location may change as Fritz 'evolves.' The head on the business end of this unit appears to be a standard sprinkler head, much like the ones you see in condos & office buildings. It has a glass bulb filled with liquid that expands as the temperature rises. At a predetermined temperature (180F in this case,) the glass shatters, allowing the valve to open and releasing the agent, CO2, which displaces the oxygen. All my fuel lines are new, etc. etc. Time and money have gone into this beast and 150.00 US seemed more than reasonable. That said, it would be very interesting to temp scan these engine compartments, noting varying conditions and engine conversions. Please note that this unit would fit very nicely inside a compartment containing a 1.9 or 2.1. There are other units that do not have a hose. They have the head mounted directly on the bottle and this may be a slicker installation for stockers. I've been driving these things a long time and nothing will get me out of the habit of paying attention to what's happening fore and aft, but I do feel as if I've taken sufficient precautions.

Miguel

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>wrote:

> If I get a chance I'll take mine out with my wireless BBQ thermometer > Monday or Tuesday and sit in traffic for an hour when it hits 90 here in > Seattle to test my cooling system. Maybe one of our Phoenix listers could > do this today since it's 118 degrees (only feels like 108!) according to > weather.com. Good grief. But don't I think even in traffic on hot > asphalt the engine compartment could go over the sustained 248 degree > threshold, that's the temp I BBQ my pork shoulders at! But I could be > wrong. . . > > It's cheaper and far better to replace your fuel lines with high quality > kits from one of the list vendors, but it might be good insurance too. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Loren Busch > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:39 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Very Interesting Fire Suppresion System > > RE: Fire Suppression System > > Just got to thinking (always dangerous). Just how hot does the engine > compartment, especially the engine lid, get when running? Like climbing a > mountain pass? I'd hate to spend $200+ for that setup, install, and have > it trip on just the engine heat without any fire. >


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