Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:41:45 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: engine bucking and bogging - simple answer
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I had a terrible-running 2.1 Vanagon about a year ago and there was no way
to figure out how much water was in that nasty tank without pulling the
tank. The amount was appalling. The car would stop anywhere, no matter how
well it ran when you started it. There turned out to be a lot of water and
a little gas.
Likewise with a Volvo that my daughter owned. I decommissioned it to scrap
and saved the gas from the tank. It is not fit to wash parts in.
I think people should assume, in a car that is 25 years old or so, that the
tank needs cleaning.
Jim
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Alistair, it can be water in the fuel contamination. One way to see is to
> pull the hose from the gas tank to the fuel pump and let it drain into a
> clear mason jar. You don't have to drain much in there, just the first
> mason jar full, then hook the line back up to the pump to stop it from
> draining and take a look at the fuel. The water will settle to the bottom
> of the tank and it should be the first bit that comes out when you drain
> the tank. If you let the mason jar sit for a short time you will see it
> separate out. You may also see rust particles coming out as well. If
> everything is clear and water/rust free then you know this isn't the
> problem. If you see rust, you should consider a new fuel tank and new
> seals and lines for it.
>
> One source of water getting into the tank that most people ignore or don't
> think about is in the front wheel wells on the 2wd Vanagons. They plastic
> expansion tanks live there and on top of them there is a plastic valve with
> a big rubber seal around it. Over time the seal can go bad and then dirt
> and road debris will get in there and allow water to get past the seal.
> Now every time you drive through a water puddle you are getting some water
> in your gas, or if you are driving all day in the rain, it is getting in
> there. Be sure to check or change these seals if you haven't before. I
> went through this with my Dad's 89 Wolfsburg. His gas tank was also shot
> by rust by the time we figured out what was happening, but since we
> repaired all of these things (new tank, new seals and hoses) he hasn't been
> having the stalling out problem.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > I will. But the timing and the cure of the problem makes me think bad
> gas.
> >
> > One would think that if it was a wiring issue it would occur more
> > frequently, and in winter too. Winter here means rain, lots of rain.
> Temp 2
> > sensor in a bit of an exposed to road splash area.
> >
> > But I will check the connection and wires.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > alistair
> >
> >
> > On 2013-07-15, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> >
> > > Check the wiring/connections to the temp 2 sensor next.
> > >
> > > Dennis,
> > > From my phone.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
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