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Date:         Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:30:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: DIY engine hoist?
Comments: To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAFnDXk17=kK2QxP5X=1A3zqscrd4db76PNqbjFCzrKKpGpz9Vg@mail.gmail.com>
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I've gotta side with Ed on this one

I must be the biggest klutz in the world, but after pulling/installing VW rear engines from Bugs, Buses, Ghias, Type 3s and Vanagons since I was 8 (1961), the tried and true method for me has and will always be the floor jack, sometimes with a small wood platform, sometimes directly on the jack pad with the vehicle on jack stands. If you follow the Bentley method for either the air cooled or wasserboxer (or see my write up at http://www.oldvolkshome.com/19to21.htm ), you shouldn't have any problems, at least I didn't. I've had my engine out and in on my 84 Westy AT (and my Ex 80 Van MT) without any lack of control of the "attitude" or alignment of mating the engine to the tranny. Maybe I've just been lucky the past few decades.

I've tried the hoist or cherry picker method a couple of times. Don't much care for it.

Just my nickel's worth :)

-- Jim Thompson 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" 75 914 1.8 "Nancy" Full Timing From March 1999 To January 2012 oldvolkshome@gmail.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Thompson/100000710343835 ***********************************

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> To me, what's wrong is that the jack method doesn't offer very much control > over the attitude of the engine mating with the transmission, plus the fact > that if you make a mistake you get an engine on the ground or worse. I've > done it both ways, many times, and I prefer the precise control of a hoist. > > I bought a transmission jack once upon a time with fore and aft tilt > control on it, but I couldn't make it fit under the car with enough > clearance to roll the engine out. I have seen some special purpose jacks > for motorcycles and such that look much lower, and they have a wider > platform to work with, but so far I haven't see the need to go beyond the > saw horse and hoist. > > Jim > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Ed <email99@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > What's wrong with the traditional jack stands, a piece of plywood, some > > wood > > blocks and a floor jack? You can build a simple cradle with the wood > > blocks > > is you like. It has worked well for me with a stock engine, a tiico I-4, > > and > > a Subaru Ej25. > > > > If you want something to just hold the engine in place while you r&r the > > transmission, use a 2x4 with a hole in it, a large eye bolt with washers > > and > > a nut and some quick links. > > >


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