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Date:         Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:22:30 -0500
Reply-To:     JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sally is FS
Comments: To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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Don,

You prol'ly do indeed live in Trollsville!!

Actually, any vehicle is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Look at the Go-Westy stuff being sold. Somebody out there must think they are worth something.

In my own case - I have seen my own 88 GL tintop rise in lending value in my own bank. Currently, my bank would lend $5400 on my van. That reflects a rise in retail prices. Doesn't mean I would get that if I sold it - just means that is the way it appears on the market place.

Currently, NADA list the Vanagons as "Classic" automobiles. My own '88 GL lists as follows: Low Retail - $3000 Average Retail - $4925 - High Retail - $7850

What ever I can sell it for is what its worth, however.

ON these old vehicles about all you can do is put it out there with and asking price and see what happens. NADA is a guide - not gospel.

One thing, though. In selling/dealing/living with a Vanagon - it can get pretty weird in the market place. You can never tell if someone is going to laugh you off the planet when you tell them price, or pullout the bag of gold nuggets. Vanagon People are a strange bunch. Fine folk - but strange when it comes to wanting to have possession of such a beast - or maybe the beast has possession of them!!

When deriving a selling price - I always remember what a successful used car dealer told me once -"Regardless of all of what else is wrong, if it has a working differential in it - it's worth $500". So it gets down to operation vs appearance. Of course there are those who say looks are everything. But if you think that way - buy all the flash and dash - and two blocks down the street off the car lot the transmission falls out of the car - you may think better of your philosophy. BTDT - looked good, sounded good - 1200 miles later I was putting in a new transmission. About 5000 miles after that - a new engine. All this was long before I and the Vanagon came to an understanding. Now I would not have anything else.

ok. Getting late, still hung over from a full day of fishing yesterday out in the hot Alabama sun - and I'm beginning to ramble a bit. Time to go.

Later.

John

On 7/20/2013 9:06 PM, Don Hanson wrote: > You guys! Sheesh, We are the ones who are talking ourselves into > thinking Vanagons are some kinda valuable rare collector car....US...right > here on Vanagon List. $3k for a minivan of any sort, that old, that is > not that great a deal....It's OK, but a "smokin' deal'? Depends on what > you are smokin... > > But hey, if for some reason people are starting to pay really big bucks > for these Vanagons...that's cool with me....When the time comes, (a long > time from now) I can cash mine in and be able to turn the money to a 4wd > Safari with an LT-1 motor, locker tranny and a 5sp..... and spend some > more of the money making a nice powerful sturdy and trouble-free camper van > using really exotic woods and have bomb-proof suspension and drive line > built out .......Or buy a crapped out Sprinter (they'll be around by the > time I get ready to sell my inline tintop westfakia) > > If I were in the market today for a Vanagon, I'd be looking hard and > long to find one I thought was worth buying. I certainly wouldn't just > write a check for what people here seem to think they're now worth....Maybe > I have Northwest Vanagon Euni....I see dozens daily and many of them are > rust free beaters being driven with loathing by people who'd rather have a > Camry but can't afford one... > Grin...I am being a troll, I guess. > Don Hanson > > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Zeitgeist <gruengeist@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's a smokin' deal. I hope it's snatched up by a T3 fan >> >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Project Pat <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> It's a late model, doesn't say the year. >>> >>> After all the previous listings, this tin top looks to be worth the 3K >>> asking price. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/cto/3942745329.html >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Casey >> > . >


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