Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:46:05 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Need to cool off!
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Well, if appropriate, one could just say get tougher. Means the same thing, more polite. I have been known to point out that when I was young, "air conditioning" was a shade tree and a jug of water, and not necessarily ice water.
I have air conditioning in my van, not working currently. Worked fine last year. Shop tells me (not sure if this is true or not) that R134a tends to leak from a system designed for R12 over time, even if no leak is detectable by a 24 hour leak down pressure test, or by dye in the coolant. My system was converted with all the proper flushes, new lubricant, new connections and seals. Still, I lose coolant. Air conditioning in a vehicle that travels on highway at 100+ F is pretty nice to have.
I very rarely put the air conditioning on in my house, where it regularly gets over 100 F. I have an attic fan. I run it after ten p.m. and through the night. In the morning, about 6 o'clock, when the outside temperature is usually below 75 F, I turn the fan off and close the house, close the blinds. The house heats up to around 84 F by early evening. That's ok, most of the day it was below 80 F. I use portable and ceiling fans to move the inside air about and make it feel cooler. Ten o'clock, attic fan on again. Only when the temperature starts to stay above 80 F in morning, and get above 105 for days, do I resort to the air conditioner.
I do a lot of work outside. Even on very hot days, a shade and a breeze makes that ok. Good sweat helps.
But, I avoid camping when the temperature is reaching above 100, and is staying above 80 in morning.
Forecast for the weekend -- highs in the low eighties, lows in the sixties. Ozarks, here we come! A relief from the heat we have been having.
mcneely
---- Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Dunno about AC much...have in in my pickup but I rarely ever use that any
> longer...the pickup.
>
> What I do is stop and cool off by going into a creek or maybe taking a
> siesta in the hottest part of the day. If you really have a schedule, try
> to arrange it to work around the hot....Or just tell your family to HTFU!
> That is an abbreviation used by bicycle riders when someone is complaining
> about how fast the pack is riding or the steepness of a mountain or
> otherwise wanking in general. Probably not something to say to your
> family, I guess...
>
> Anyhow, AC is a luxury that I, for one, don't care to pay the price
> for...Extra stuff to keep working, extra gas to run the vehicle with it on,
> and when you get out of the vehicle into the actual atmosphere outside, it
> makes it fell really hot, so all you want to do is run inside
> somewhere...What's the fun in that? Try bringing along a milk jug of clean
> water and pouring over each other inside when it's really really hot. That
> cools you off and it's kind fun...
>
> We had one of those window mount coolers when I was a kid...it worked
> well, too..I recall, but my pop didn't get any of the cooling over in the
> drivers seat..
>
> HTFU...sorry, I won't explain but it can be appropriate at times..
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jeremy Stovin <jjstov@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Ahh. No. Could not sell Lola. She is great, except the lack of AC.
> >
> > Shifting conversation.. what about those portable evaporative AC units.
> > Fill with Ice & Water, etc...
> >
> > Any feedback on those?
> >
> > From: chris and/or ruth <populuxe59@YAHOO.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: Need to cool off!
> >
> >
> > This may, or may not be an option.
> > Sell your existing '87 and buy one with a good AC already working. You'd
> > be $2,000-$5,000 ahead with money your not spending on your '87. It would
> > be like a credit you apply to the new rig.
> > I have no idea what type of condition your present unit is in, or what
> > expenses you've got into it. Notice I didn't use the word "investment". If
> > it is an investment that will make a return for you; go ahead and upgrade.
> > Unlike me, there are plenty of potential owners that will buy a Westfalia
> > without AC and the price added for existing AC is near nothing.
> >
> > Chris C3
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Need to cool off!
> >
> > Ok, the family has put their feet down. There were too many hot times in
> > our=
> > last trip. (Got up to 105F at one point.) windows open, not much help. I
> > n=
> > eed to cool my '87 Westy. While on the road.
> >
> > Is it realistic or reasonable to try to install an AC in her?=20
> >
> > Any recommended solution?
> >
> > Thinking about the evaporative cooler. Pros or Cons? Recommended models?
> > Whe=
> > re could I get one not on line? Saw one from GoCool, anyone else see this?
> >
> > If I can't cool the van down, then I will be traveling alone. Your help is
> > a=
> > ppreciated!
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > Sent from my iPad=
> >
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David McNeely
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