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Date:         Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:56:29 -0600
Reply-To:     OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From:         OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: What Oil to Use on Startup?
Comments: To: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <51F54543.6010308@gmail.com>
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Now that makes sense ~ but maybe only because that is the way I was educated about EngineBreakIn back 1960.

Over time, due to an OpenMind, further education & advances in Technology I have adjusted that Eng'BreakIn scenario to go something like this ~

For an H2OBoxerEng' for example ~

Conventional/Dino 5w30 ~ 1st Hour ~ then drain it 1000-3000RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

Conventional/Dino 5w30 ~ 0 - 1000 Miles ~ then drain it Not over 4000RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

Conventional/Dino 5w30 ~ 1000 - 2000 Miles ~ then drain it Not over 4000RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

Conventional/Dino 5w40 ~ 2000 - 4000 Miles ~ then drain it Not over 4000RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

Conventional/Dino 5w40 ~ 4000 - 7000 Miles ~ then drain it Not over 4400RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

Conventional/Dino 5w40 ~ 7000 - 10000 Miles ~ then drain it Not over 4800RPM ~ Trying not to stay @ any 1 RPM for vary long

FullSynthetic 0w40 or 5w40 ~ 10000 - 14000 & every 4K after that until OilPressureGauge tells me I might want to think about a *w50

or an Eng'Rebuild

I find ~ HighlyIllogical ~ the notion that it is OK to fire up an Eng' that has been sitting for a year with an UnknownLubricant in it's OilPan which most probably in that year may have gathered up some H2O & who knows what sort of nasty acids, while it is not OK to drain that potentially nasty stuff (which is possibly mostly sitting in the bottom of the OilPan) & put in a "FlushLube" & deal with the TinyBit of it that might be left in the system mixing with the GoodStuff that you put in an hour or 2 later.

ORR ~ DeanB

On 28 Jul , 2013, at 10:22 AM, JRodgers wrote:

> In 1999, the engine in my '88 GL burned a piston - melted a hole > through it, scored the cylinder walls, damaged the head, put chunks of > metal into the crankcase. When torn down - it could be seen it was a > mess. A local trusted re-builder happened to have a 2.1L he had just > finished rebuilding so I bought it. His instructions were followed for > startup and break in. A straight 30 wt oil was used. The engine was > run > at idle until warm, then cycled up and down from idle to 1500 and back > to idle. This was every few minutes. After two hours of this - > watching > the engine closely - it was shut down and the oil drained, a new > filter > installed, along with 15W50 oil. I drove it for 500 miles locally - no > extended high speed runs - mostly 30 to 50 mph. At 500 miles changed > the > oil and filter. After that - I drove it at speeds up to 65 for 15 - 20 > min at a time, and at the 1000 mile mark after the initial startup - > changed oil and filter again. Then drove normally there after. This > was > in year 2000. I have never had any trouble on the internals of this > engine since the rebuilt. While cost is always a factor - investment > in > the oil and the filters used to get the engine properly broken in was > small for having an engine that would get a good start on a full life. > > John > > On 7/27/2013 11:49 AM, Paul Rogers wrote: >> Howdy, I'm preparing for starting up, hopefully, my new to me >> motor. According to the seller it has around 900 miles on it. But >> it's been sitting around for a while. I know it's been over 1 year >> minimum. Long term I'm going to use Mobil 1 but I'm thinking for >> the initial start up using something less spendy in the event >> something doesn't go as planned. I'd really hate to waste $30 plus $ >> $ of the Mobil 1. Any thoughts on this matter would be gratefully >> appreciated. Wish me luck. >> Paul in Tracy >> I don't think it matters but the motor is a 2.1 >> >> Sent from my iPlace >>


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