Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:34:13 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Paint job pricing
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Just for reference, I recently painted everything on my westy's exterior
myself with high-quality single step paint. I did not do the front as I had
that done by Maaco right after I got the car. I replaced all but two window
seals (they were fairly new), did some seam runs control, painted door
jambs, did some minor but needed bodywork, soundproofed as I went, and
tinted all the windows but the front. Total cost with window rubber about
$700, including all paint, thinner, dryer, tape, paper, peel-n-seal, etc.
Paint was $150 or $200 (I did this over almost a year, so I forgot whether
I used three quarts or four).
I am very happy with the job as is the general public if judged by the
increased number of peace signs, honks, thumbs up and gas station gawkers.
I am also very happy with the CLUNKS that the doors make when they close as
well as the silence of the sliding door as it is closing. I spent some care
and time on that one.
Jim
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Marc Perdue <mcperdue@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will be doing this soon for my van ('87 Westy). It is currently in a
> different shop that specializes in getting rid of all the rust in old
> VWs. After de-rustifying it, I'll be taking it to a different shop to
> get painted. I too am planning on replacing all the window rubber.
>
> I always liked the look of the later vans with the poptop painted the
> same color as the body, so I'll likely do that. In addition, I'm
> thinking of finding a nice VW blue color and changing the van's color
> completely on the outside. Since it's that gold-ish color, with gray
> interior, I'll leave the inside the original color.
>
> The PPO had an accident in the van one time (no, not THAT kind of
> accident) and had the back hatch door painted. The clear coat
> de-laminated from the color coat and water would get in it, looking
> like a sun-burn blister. I could never tell which was the original
> color, because there are at least 5 different shades of gold-ish on
> the van in different places. Soon to be fixed!!!
>
> This is one van that's getting a renewed lease on life!
> Marc
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One of the biggest factors in the expense of painting anything is
> getting
> > to a surface that is ready to hold your new paint. Any tiny bit of old
> > paint that hasn't been properly worked over, that is a potential spot
> where
> > your NEW paint will come loose, wrecking the whole job and making it time
> > to 'start over'...If the paint lifts in one small spot, you can count on
> > other spots being iffy, too.
> >
> > Taking off the old paint with any chemical is likely to leave a residue
> > that will compromise the new paint. Sanding seems the only way to
> assure a
> > good bond...I would much rather have a vehicle to paint that has old thin
> > dull rust or whatever than one that some PO rattle-canned or
> > Plasti-coated....
> > I don't think there is any 'short-cut'...One simply has to be really
> > meticulous about preparing for new paint....if you aren't, it will lift,
> > peel, or whatever....then you can do it again or just leave it...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Tom Carchrae <tom@carchrae.net> wrote:
> >
> >> While we are on the topic of paint, it appears that someone once
> painted my
> >> van with a water based paint, a close match (aside from being duller) to
> >> the original paint. When I wash the van, I get this white residue
> coming
> >> off.
> >>
> >> The dull look is ok, but I'm a bit worried about doing any painting
> over it
> >> so wonder what would be the best way to remove it - warm water and soap
> >> works slowly. The shiny area of original paint showing around the gas
> tank
> >> cap indicates a gasoline soaked rag would be quicker.
> >>
>
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