Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:37:07 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Subject: German quality?
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I have had issues with both Lemforder and Febi Ball joints. I have a
Lemforder set now that won't fit in the upper control arm! The bolt holes
are in the wrong place.
You take your chances with most aftermarket stuff and I have had bad dealer
stuff also. When it comes to sensors I still try to stay with the dealer
stuff. I really miss the dealer thermostats and rear brake shoes. If you
need the rear motor mounts Meyle is the best available for the outers. They
look as good as the dealer stuff. Maybe they bought out the supply when VW
announced the obsolescence. There are still inners available through the
dealer. Maybe those "made in China" stickers are there to avoid the import
tariffs.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Monk
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:04 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Subject: German quality?
I have no issue where parts are made as long as they are quality. Meyle
parts are one that have in my experience to be junk. Heater valves
leak,balljoints fail quickly,sensors like heater temp are way out of
spec,etc... its a darn shame.
I prefer Lemforder for suspension parts as not only do they last longer but
have more articulation. I am still on the fence for who makes a better
sensor or heater valve.
But Ron if your listening, get Lemforder for ball joints and tie rods. Even
at double the price they are so worth it. Especially for syncros that go
off road. One more thing Ron you need a new parts section. That way we know
what you have that's new and makes us want to spend more money with you.
Bill M
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On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:08 AM, "The Bus Depot" <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote:
>> To expand on this a bit and please don't take this as a negative
>> comment
> against
>> busdepot as we have a long history. A customer of mine purchased some
> Meyle
>> components. On the box states made in Germany and on the part
>> stamped
> made
>> in china. Not implying the part is sub par but I will no longer
>> install
> Meyle or PEX
>> parts unless the owner signs a release assuming all responsibility
>> for
> failures.
>
>
> That is not limited to Meyle and PEX. I have seen it with Febi and
> numerous other German brands as well. Expect to see it more and more.
> It is no longer possible to avoid Chinese made parts, as increasingly
> they are the only source for particular parts regardless of the name
> on the box. That being said, China's manufacturing industry is slowly
> improving as a whole just as the Japanese one did fifty years prior.
> There are still large variations in quality, and in quality control,
> from one to another, but it is no longer fair or accurate to assume
> that all Chinese parts are junk. It really does run the gamut. Also,
> as we note in http://www.busdepot.com/details/quality/ , it can
> sometimes be safer to buy a Chinese made part from a reputable brand
> than an off-brand Chinese made part. The name brands have spent
> decades and millions of dollars building their reputation in the
> marketplace, and are generally uninclined to risk that brand equity
> just to save a few extra pennies on a part. So as a general rule (not
> always) they tend to be more picky about who they outsource to and/or may
institute additional QC processes.
>
> - Ron Salmon
> The Bus Depot, Inc.
> www.busdepot.com
> (215) 234-VWVW
>
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