Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:24:12 -0700
Reply-To: Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
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Hmmm, I haven't hit any deer or cows, but I have hit four birds. Three in flight (two sparrows and one hawk) and one (gull) on the road.
And then there was that flying melon tossed out of a car going in the opposite direction on RT 1. (I was in a Chevy S10, so who cares?)
No whistles installed in any of the above incidents.
Steve
87 Syncro GL
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On Mon, 9/9/13, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Monday, September 9, 2013, 1:55 PM
Birds "get" cars: they see a car
coming, they get out of the way.
They're pretty good at that, too: sometimes they'll wait
until the last
minute to move, a final peck at that nice piece of road
kill.
Deer don't seem to be able to determine the likely course of
a vehicle
-- they are unable to get out of the way because they don't
know where
"the way" is.
Cows seem to be as clueless. At least the ones here that
I've had to
wade through.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 09/09/2013 10:31 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> Well, what the paper says is that deer can hear the low
frequency ones (probably), but not the high frequency
ones. It also says that road noise may mask the
whistle. It does not say that they do or don't
work. My guess is that they don't stop deer from
entering the road, even if deer do hear them. After
all, they almost certainly hear and see the vehicle.
When I hit a deer, the things were running around in a blind
panic. I had slowed to almost a crawl (annoying other
drivers whom I guess just wanted to hit the deer anyway,
they had to see them), and the deer had disappeared back
into the woods. I sped up, the deer came back and ran
in front of me before I could stop.
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>> Well, no they don’t then! I
conclude from this paper that constantly honking your horn
is the only effective method to alert deer. Not such a
good idea in populated areas.
>>
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>> I watched this recent PBS program on deer
overpopulation in NY, it’s a big problem: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365000001/
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>> Stuart
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>> From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:36 AM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
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>> http://www.bioacoustics.uconn.edu/reports/ARLOManuscript326%20FINAL.pdf
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>> Alistair
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> --
> David McNeely
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