Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:35:00 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
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fwiw ..I hit a large deer once in jillions of miles of driving.
He came out of my left , like a missile......no warning ..suddenly there
is a large thing coming in from the left directly across my path. Wasn't
like there was a chance to see him on theside of the road at all.
I had a millisecond to take any action ..I braked hard and turned
left a little to go behind him.....hit his rear end anyway ..lots of
damage ...didn't find the deer in the dark anyway.
I forget if I had deer whistlers onthe car or not. They 'might' work.
It's hard to tell if they work or not. I don't currently have any on
any of my cars.
Cows..one time I was driving through a herd in Nevada on a dirt road.
Most of the cows scattered, but a calf was running parrallel to me on my
right. I was going about 25. I sped a little up to get past
him..Without warning he did a fast 'solid left hook turn' right into my
right front fender.
Be real careful around calves ..they be dumb.
Birds are generally pretty smart about things like this. They have their
self-protection radar on all the time, especially when not in flight
..many birds anyway, seems to me. Deer are kinda dumb I think.
On 9/9/2013 10:55 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
> Birds "get" cars: they see a car coming, they get out of the way.
> They're pretty good at that, too: sometimes they'll wait until the last
> minute to move, a final peck at that nice piece of road kill.
>
> Deer don't seem to be able to determine the likely course of a vehicle
> -- they are unable to get out of the way because they don't know where
> "the way" is.
>
> Cows seem to be as clueless. At least the ones here that I've had to
> wade through.
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>
> On 09/09/2013 10:31 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>> Well, what the paper says is that deer can hear the low frequency
>> ones (probably), but not the high frequency ones. It also says that
>> road noise may mask the whistle. It does not say that they do or
>> don't work. My guess is that they don't stop deer from entering the
>> road, even if deer do hear them. After all, they almost certainly
>> hear and see the vehicle. When I hit a deer, the things were running
>> around in a blind panic. I had slowed to almost a crawl (annoying
>> other drivers whom I guess just wanted to hit the deer anyway, they
>> had to see them), and the deer had disappeared back into the woods.
>> I sped up, the deer came back and ran in front of me before I could
>> stop.
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>> ---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> Well, no they don’t then! I conclude from this paper that
>>> constantly honking your horn is the only effective method to alert
>>> deer. Not such a good idea in populated areas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I watched this recent PBS program on deer overpopulation in NY, it’s
>>> a big problem: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365000001/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca]
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:36 AM
>>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bioacoustics.uconn.edu/reports/ARLOManuscript326%20FINAL.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>
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