Date:         Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:26:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject:      Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
Comments: To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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excellent points Tom,
and I'm a volvo driver and loverof my 88 turbo 740 sedan.
and back then ..Volvo worked 'really hard' on safety ..
in many dimensions.
and yes...volvo's would generally have more 'sober' responsible drivers.

Fortunately, "Inga' has never hit a deer,
or any of my vanagons.

miles per year driven, driving style,
and location would all be factors of course.
On 9/9/2013 8:05 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
> OK, now we need to know the ratio between with & without on the road. If
> half the cars have the whistles then you could argue that they make no
> difference. But if only 25% have the whistles & the body shop sees 50/50
> then you could actually argue that they attract deer, or possibly the
> drivers with whistles drive more aggressive through deer country!
>
> It's kind of like the old Volvo advertisements. For years Volvo claimed to
> have the safest car on the road, and they could prove their claim with
> numbers. Volvo consistently reported less crashes per mile and less deaths
> per crash than any other major manufacturer and the data was indisputable.
> Then measurable crash test results came along & Volvo performed far worse
> than other European models like BMW and Mercedes. When they re-analyzed
> their data Volvo discovered that a typical VOLVO DRIVER drove safer than
> other driver!!! It's a classic example of misapplied statistics.
>
> So, do these whistles help with deer? Maybe.
>
> And does a driver with whistles installed drive more boldly? Probably, if he
> trusts his whistles.
>
> Oh, and I hit a deer about 5 years ago with my S class Mercedes on the
> interstate in Kentucky and I can tell you that deer bounce at 80 MPH! And
> no, I wasn't running whistles.
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> Vern in Bend
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 8:51 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Deer whistles--do they work?
>
> I once posed the question to a body shop operator. After a hearty laugh he
> assured me that his shop repairs deer-collision damage on at least as many
> cars with whistles as without.
>
> Regards, Vern
>