Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:16:43 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: An Engine Conversion Begins-Mixed Emotions!
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I saw a syncro near Salton Sea with an inline 4 and I chatted them up
briefly. The fellow said he liked the motor just fine, but I didn't get
any particulars...sounded nice...
According to some of the other VW forums the 1.8liter head on an ABA
block is roughly as powerful and frugal as a standard ABA with cross flow
heads...but of course I have no real data to back that up and in fact I
didn't say that myself, I'm relaying what I read on the Internet....Who
really knows?
I shall have to , if I get some extra time to waste, do a search and see
if I can come up with any dyno sheets for both those motors... Looking at
the Cross Flow ABA intake I have sitting in a box, unused from the ABA
block in my van...it doesn't look to me like it would be worth having a
bump in my bed.....grin.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Neil,
>
> Was it you that, sometime in the past, posted some info on a modified
> intake runners/plenum on a cross flow head?
>
> I think it was done to reduce the height of assembly.
>
> Related question, anyone pop a cross flow (un modified) head 2.0l I4 at 50
> degrees in a syncro?
>
> I'm sure it has been done and perhaps with no mods as the engine/tranny
> sits lower with respect to the body in a syncro
>
> Alistair
>
> On 2013-09-16, at 4:10 PM, neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > Good point and I'm sure you have a pulse on that front given your
> > penchant for junkin!
> >
> > If/When I get a real shop and get set up to learn more of custom work,
> > I'd really like to find a VW parts solution to the 2.0 crossflow
> > intake to allow it to sit under the lid. (w/o lowering the drivetrain
> > too much)
> >
> > Of note, saw Jim Arnotts ABA swap in person. The intake didn't stick
> > up too high. IIRC he lowered the engine aboot 1".
> >
> > I should note that some of the issues with my swap were self induced
> > by my hand in part due to it being a 15 degree mount, and in part due
> > to it being an air to water cooled swap. Moreover, I was being very
> > fussy about details and posting lots of questions regarding all these
> > issues.
> >
> > Assuming the OP does his at 50 degrees, it should be less of a hassle.
> > i.e. more of a "bolt up" affair.
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> > On 9/16/13, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> >> You can still do a relatively inexpensive conversion with a VW car
> >> inline engine but there are a lot of variables. The simple cheap ones
> >> that actually fit under the stock engine lid are all more than 20 years
> >> old now and getting much less common. My local yard as recently as 2
> >> years ago would typically have 5-10 VWs with the 1.8 engine to pick
> >> from, with fresh ones in every week. They don't have any now, or last
> >> week, or the week before and so on. They get newer 2.0 ABA engine VW
> >> cars just about every week, as well as 1.8Turbo VW and Audis. The newer
> >> engines are fine and more powerful than the old 1.8 but they don't just
> >> bolt in under the engine lid like the old ones did. Times change.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> neil n wrote:
> >>> jim knows more than ill ever know on this topic. that said, I will say
> >>> that my time aside, the actual cost in parts was not that high.
> >>> BUT..... I made some of the parts. still, as the OP found the diesel
> >>> parts can be found , hopefully at a reasonable cost.
> >>>
> >>> I had the pleasure of meeting a Bostig owner while on my trip .....
> the
> >>> bostig is a sweet swap.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil n
> >
> > Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca
> >
> > '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p
> >
> > '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
> > Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej
>
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