Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:24:50 -0700
Reply-To: "John C..." <oregonejohn@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "John C..." <oregonejohn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Asymmetric two post lift
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Thanks everyone for your input.
I've been out in the shop working on setting it up.
This lift has two posts that are about 30 degrees on an angle to the car.
This gives more access in and out of the car through the doors.
With one short and one long supporting arm.
This is a "true" asymmetrical lift.
All of this, also shifts the center of gravity of the vehicle.
There are also what they still call "asymmetrical"
where the two posts are square to the car
(like a symmetrical lift)
but still have one short and one long supporting arm.
Be that as it may, I cant for the life of me
figure out why the manufacturer ( Worth )
would tell me that I cant 'back' in ??
They said it would only work if it was a drive through type of situation.
The weight of the Engine and, pretty much the portions
of the vehicle are about the same, as far as I can see.
Anywho, like I was saying, I've been out in the shop
trying to hoist the heavy awkward top frame into place,
lifting it from 2, 2X4's strung across 4 rafters.
(on each side and 12+ feet in the air)
Gotter done though.
Now, the 240 wiring and I'll be in Vanagon heaven again.
I Just "turned" 65 yrs old (& starting to smell like an old piece of fruit
;o)
And it was just getting to be too much of a pain
getting up off of that old creeper a dozen times for every job !!!
Thanks All for you input!
best,
John C...
(out in the forest of)Yacolt, WA
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>wrote:
> In case members are not aware, we have a near infinite library right at
> our fingertips. Called google or whatever other search engine you like.
> here's a google page on asymetric lifts.
> https://www.google.com/search?**q=Asymmetric+two+post+lift&ie=**
> utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.**mozilla:en-US:official&client=**firefox-a<https://www.google.com/search?q=Asymmetric+two+post+lift&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a>
>
> here's a guy's whole discussion about it.
> http://www.gregsmithequipment.**com/Asymmetric-Two-Post-Lifts-**
> Vs-Symmetric-Two-Post-Lifts<http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Asymmetric-Two-Post-Lifts-Vs-Symmetric-Two-Post-Lifts>
>
> one thing I notice ...if the lift only has a single large post ..
> from which arms extend..
> that post would *sure* have to be bolted to the concrete floor well !
>
> And ...as long as you have a smooth hard floor..
> it is just so much nicer, I think, to lay on my back on a creeper and
> have what I am working on right in front of me. Very comfortable.
> Working standing up with hands and tools above my head ..forget it.
> Hurts just thinking about it.
> So easy to bang your head on a part sticking down too ....no fun when
> that happens.
> you have to be very careful working on the bottom of a vehicle with it
> straight above you.
>
> and ...that getting down to the floor from standing, like to get on a
> good creeper..
> then back up again ..
> the more a human gets down on the ground and back up ..the longer they
> live. Not joking either.
> You'll notice as people loose atheletism ( they never really have to of
> course ) ..the first thing that gets really hard is to get down on the
> ground and back up ....it's good to keep that physicality alive as long
> as possible.
> it being friday I can mention that their are buddhist type people
> that seek to do 100,000 Prostrations in their life ...
> People would be flat amazed at the effect a full, full prostration has
> on all aspects of their being...( that's all the way down until forehead
> and chest are on the ground ....and all the way back up ..sorta yoga
> like ...'peaks out' with hands together fully above your head and
> looking skyward. )
>
> way woo-woo for people on this list I am sure. This sort of thing is
> one factor in why I look and seem and act at least 10 yrs younger than
> my real age. So really ....using a creeper or something on the ground
> under a well-supported vehicle can help you live longer. And that's the
> only real game in life ..how long our bodies and minds work and keep
> functioning.
> and ....it's an incredible practice.
> Do 25 or more someday, outdoors ! ....like before you have to do
> something really important ..job interview say. It's amazing.
>
> lifts-smifts ..don't need 'em .
>
>
> On 10/4/2013 3:24 PM, JRodgers wrote:
>
>> What do these "two Post lifts" look like? Can't say I have ever seen on.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 10/4/2013 4:50 PM, Jonce Fancher wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have had a 2 post lift for about 12 years.
>>> And have put my vanagon on both ways just make sure it is about the
>>> center or balance front to back.
>>> It is not really a biggie with the vehicle unless it is pushing the
>>> limit of the lift weight limit OR you have it hanging off one side
>>> way off one end or the other to far.
>>>
>>> Not sure if that helps or not.
>>>
>>> Jonce
>>>
>>>
>>> I would be interested in hearing about this as well...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan Felder
>>>> Austin TX
>>>> 82 Diesel Westy
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM, John C... <oregonejohn@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi All,
>>>> > Is anyone using a Asymmetric two post lift in their shop
>>>> > and if so Is it alright to back into it
>>>> > so that the Vanagon engine faces my work bench?
>>>> > Any tricks to it?
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > John C..
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
