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Date:         Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:44:14 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VLVC - Battery experience with WalMart-killing battery in two
              years or less.
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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Never mentioned cause most of know that is not normal. However stuff happens. Besides batteries do sometimes fail due to a true defect such as a broken internal cell connector or a lead drip landing between the plates. Vehicles that sit a lot or batteries used for cycling applications can get beaten up.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Stuart MacMillan Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:53 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: VLVC - Battery experience with WalMart

Good stuff, but no one has mentioned that you shouldn't be killing a battery in two years. There are only two reasons for this, one is a charging system problem and the other is that the vehicle is driven primarily on short trips. If the latter is true, put a charger on it once a month or so and you'll get the advertised lifetime or more.

Short trips can result in carbon build up on the valves too, so a nice long drive every few months would take care of both problems.

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of John Graham Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:40 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: VLVC - Battery experience with WalMart

My main vehicle is an '88 Vanagon Camper, but I am also the main motor consultant on my wife's Toyota Sienna. So my tale is about the battery on the Sienna.

Yesterday it failed to start the beast; charging it didn't help. My verdict was the battery needed to be replaced. It had come from WalMart and it was close by so off I went. I found the needed new battery on the rack, purchased it (for $99) and loaded in my trusty Vanagon.

Now here's the interesting/happy part. I took the old battery back to the customer service counter expecting to only get my $9 core charge back. The service person waved her little price gun at my receipt and then my old battery's bar code sticker and then played with her register keyboard for what I thought was longer than needed for a $9 core charge.

She proceeded to hand me a $60 refund (I guess there was some warrantee left on my old battery that I hadn't calculated). I guess you can tell that I'm not that attentive to all those details, but I'm sure the battery was over 2+ years old.

So I guess my takeaway from this is that if your dead battery came from Walmart, you may get a refund when you purchase your next one if there is some warrantee left. Who knows - maybe I just got lucky with the right service person, but next time, if they don't scan the old battery, I'll ask.

I hope your next dead battery experience is as good as mine was.

John Graham '88 Vanagon Westy - Charlotte, NC

-- <http://johntakesgreatpictures.com>


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