Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:57:35 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: off with her heads
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the shim-washers can also jam semi-sideways against the brass gear on
the crankshaft..
then you have a real mess.
That shaft can even just lift up by turning the engine backwards.
Keep a distributor in there at all times !
timing is no big deal ..
should be checked when you first get the engine running.
Often there's no need to even change the distributor position or timing.
Scott
On 10/17/2013 9:43 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> The distributor drive shaft can fall out. It has shims on the bottom that
> can fall into the case if you are really unlucky.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Tom Carchrae
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:31 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: off with her heads
>
> Thanks Scott. I'll try moving the piston around tomorrow. I have been
> dousing it with a can of un-sticker to no avail.... yet. I don't have a
> propane torch yet, but I believe they are pretty cheap.
>
> I have left the distributor on there. I presume that is important because
> of timing?
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Scott Daniel
> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>wrote:
>
>> hi John..
>> I do them with the piston down, away from the cylinder head.
>>
>> it's ok to turn the engine ..
>> one warning..always keep the distributor in the block when turning the
>> engine over by hand.
>>
>> Even a propane torch would be better than nothing.
>> I'd take the head to ...let's see..
>> it runs up to 200 F when things are good n' warm in the cooling system.
>>
>> I wouldn't be afraid to take the whole head up to 250 F measured with
>> an IR temp gun.
>> That could/should have quite an affect.
>>
>> nix on the boiling water ..if just poring it over, almost no affect,
>> unless you are outdoors and it's below zero.
>>
>> defenitely lower the piston in the barrel.
>> just don't pull the barrel off the piston.
>> you only need to get the barrel like 1/2 inch out ..
>> then move piston back up to make more sure you don't pull the barrel
>> off the head.
>>
>> you'll get it !
>> and you're spraying penetrating oil liberally like every 4 hours, for
>> days on end ?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2013 4:37 PM, Tom Carchrae wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Tom Carchrae <tom@carchrae.net>
> <tom@carchrae.net> wrote:
>>
>> Enjoying the job so far. We'll see, I may be cursing a bit more when
>> I am re-assembling.
>>
>>
>> I guess it is sort of reassuring that I posted my first head offing
>> email just 10 days ago. I guess I was asking for it with the 'enjoying
> the job'
>> comment. 3 cylinders off, no problem...
>>
>> It seems now like it has been 10 years as I have been making very
>> little progress. I go out, pry, tap, bang, shout, and scrape the skin
>> off my fingers, but no, that cylinder sleeve is well jammed into that
>> head. If this was a beheading, it is the very messy amateur sort;
>> nothing short of gruesome.
>>
>> The cylinder in question has the piston quite close to the head, which
>> gives me a lot more wiggle room. After fighting with it and having the
>> nuts all still on (at the end of their threads) I removed the nuts and
>> pulled it out further. Still no luck.
>>
>> I am yet to try heat. I guess this will be the next attack. I guess
>> that pouring boiling water on it won't help? Or just go straight for
>> propane heat (I can see burns now, as well as cuts on my hands). That
>> and more walloping, although so far this seems to be purely for my
>> mental well being.
>>
>> One though I had was that I may have pried too much on the inside, so
>> maybe it is not coming off evenly making it more stuck. Another
>> thought is that piston being out so far in that sleeve makes the whallops
> less effective.
>> Anyway, mostly, I just came to moan and bemuse. Awoooooo.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
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