Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:16:51 -0500
Reply-To: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
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From: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: idea?
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Planning on building a window unit into my Westy and possibly an inverter
for a/c while driving too.
Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
On Oct 27, 2013 9:27 AM, "Harry Hoffman" <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net> wrote:
> Why not just buy a small generator/inverter powered by gas to run a window
> a/c unit?
> You can find ones on craigslist in the $300 range that will run the a/c
> for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Harry
>
> ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> >Sadly my Westy being diesel never came with a/c, I would like to plug it
> in
> >to 110v at the campsite to keep weight low and keep as much storage as
> >possible. Most of the campgrounds we visit the tent sites have power with
> >many more campgrounds planning on adding power to their sites. I dont want
> >a huge a/c, just a small one to knock the temp down a bit but mostly
> >humidity.
> >
> >Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> >On Oct 27, 2013 8:08 AM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you plan to dry camp you will need the space under the back seat for
> >> batteries and the inverter. A pair of GC-2's and a 2,000 watt inverter
> will
> >> get you through the night. If willing to invest there are 12 volt AC
> >> options. Also if the original AC system is intact a 110 volt compressor
> can
> >> be added and with a 12 volt power supply and a good control scheme use
> the
> >> existing condenser and evaporator.
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> >> ralph meyermann
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:16 AM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: idea?
> >>
> >> The plan for the a/c is for the sweltering nights. During the day we're
> >> fine
> >> just cant sleep while sweating to death. I figure cutting off the shaft
> for
> >> the condensing coil side and installing fan/fans where I relocate the
> >> condensing coil.
> >>
> >> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> >> On Oct 25, 2013 10:07 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Most all window AC use a single motor to drive both the evaporator and
> >> > condenser fans. You also have to consider the position of the coils in
> >> > relationship to the compressor so the oil circulates and travels
> >> > through the compressor. Needing AC while camped is often the first
> >> > sign your out growing the Westy.
> >> >
> >> > Dennis
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> >> > Behalf Of Jim Felder
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:07 AM
> >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> > Subject: Re: idea?
> >> >
> >> > My brother and I were discussing cutting an AC unit in two and
> >> > mounting part outside, part inside, under the rear seat.
> >> >
> >> > Also, it would be possible--but more difficult--to mount a split unit
> >> > like that in the luggage rack with only vents down into the cabin, but
> >> > the cabin roof would have to be penetrated and all the controls would
> >> > have to be completely remoted. A weather cover would have to be
> >> > created for the luggage rack mount. While the unit would not have to
> >> > be "split" like it would if mounted under the seat (the whole thing
> >> > would be mounted outside the
> >> > vehicle) it would benefit from being rearranged to better fit the
> >> > space in the luggage rack to keep the profile low.
> >> >
> >> > The underseat mount would allow you to use the faceplate of the unit
> >> > just as it came from the factory as long as it was not more than 13
> >> > inches tall.
> >> >
> >> > The problem of making up some mounts is not trivial but not much
> >> > harder than some intercooler mounts. I have a friend who works on this
> >> > type of small window unit AC, and he said the only problem would be
> >> > knowing where to cut the lines and then installing the valves and
> >> > plumbing to allow evacuation and refill. He said he would show me when
> >> > we had a unit to look at, which hasn't happened yet.
> >> >
> >> > You could put one in the closet, too, I think but it wold be even
> >> > harder to split the unit using that space.
> >> >
> >> > Would love to hear from anyone who has modified a unit by cutting and
> >> > modifying the tubing.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, ralph meyermann
> >> > <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Correct placement is a must for issues like that. If I use the front
> >> > > part of the original unit, it would simplify the controls too?
> >> > >
> >> > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> >> > > On Oct 25, 2013 7:40 AM, <ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Careful how you use that space above the transaxle. It could
> >> > > > cause a space restriction should you decide to remove the engine
> or
> >> starter.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dave B.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 10/25/13, ralph meyermann<ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Still thinking/brainstorming/planning on how I could make it work.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> >> > > > On Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM, "Scott Daniel"
> >> > > > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > There's quite a bit of unused space above the transaxle in a 2WD
> >> > > vanagon.
> >> > > > > huge 'outside' area there ....just integrate the unit into that
> >> > > > > rear firewall behind the rear seat.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 10/24/2013 5:33 PM, Mike B wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> You can't integrate "everything" into the interior. The
> >> > > > >> condenser and it's fan still must be mounted outside or be able
> >> > > > >> to exhaust it's hot air to the outside or it won't cool the
> >> interior.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On 10/24/2013 8:09 PM, ralph meyermann wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>> Hi Volks! I have a possibly crazy but possibly doable idea. I
> >> > > > >>> am thinking about getting a new 110v window a/c unit,
> >> > > > >>> disassembling it and integrating it into the interior and
> >> > > > >>> underneath reconnect everything recharge
> >> > > with
> >> > > > >>> refrigerant and tie it into the the 110v of the van. Some slim
> >> > > > >>> low
> >> > > amp
> >> > > > >>> 110v fans will be needed. Am I the only one thinking with this
> >> > > possible
> >> > > > >>> nonsense?
> >> > > > >>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
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