Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:08:20 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: idea?
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If you plan to dry camp you will need the space under the back seat for
batteries and the inverter. A pair of GC-2's and a 2,000 watt inverter will
get you through the night. If willing to invest there are 12 volt AC
options. Also if the original AC system is intact a 110 volt compressor can
be added and with a 12 volt power supply and a good control scheme use the
existing condenser and evaporator.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
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ralph meyermann
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:16 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: idea?
The plan for the a/c is for the sweltering nights. During the day we're fine
just cant sleep while sweating to death. I figure cutting off the shaft for
the condensing coil side and installing fan/fans where I relocate the
condensing coil.
Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
On Oct 25, 2013 10:07 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Most all window AC use a single motor to drive both the evaporator and
> condenser fans. You also have to consider the position of the coils in
> relationship to the compressor so the oil circulates and travels
> through the compressor. Needing AC while camped is often the first
> sign your out growing the Westy.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Felder
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:07 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: idea?
>
> My brother and I were discussing cutting an AC unit in two and
> mounting part outside, part inside, under the rear seat.
>
> Also, it would be possible--but more difficult--to mount a split unit
> like that in the luggage rack with only vents down into the cabin, but
> the cabin roof would have to be penetrated and all the controls would
> have to be completely remoted. A weather cover would have to be
> created for the luggage rack mount. While the unit would not have to
> be "split" like it would if mounted under the seat (the whole thing
> would be mounted outside the
> vehicle) it would benefit from being rearranged to better fit the
> space in the luggage rack to keep the profile low.
>
> The underseat mount would allow you to use the faceplate of the unit
> just as it came from the factory as long as it was not more than 13
> inches tall.
>
> The problem of making up some mounts is not trivial but not much
> harder than some intercooler mounts. I have a friend who works on this
> type of small window unit AC, and he said the only problem would be
> knowing where to cut the lines and then installing the valves and
> plumbing to allow evacuation and refill. He said he would show me when
> we had a unit to look at, which hasn't happened yet.
>
> You could put one in the closet, too, I think but it wold be even
> harder to split the unit using that space.
>
> Would love to hear from anyone who has modified a unit by cutting and
> modifying the tubing.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, ralph meyermann
> <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Correct placement is a must for issues like that. If I use the front
> > part of the original unit, it would simplify the controls too?
> >
> > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > On Oct 25, 2013 7:40 AM, <ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Careful how you use that space above the transaxle. It could
> > > cause a space restriction should you decide to remove the engine or
starter.
> > >
> > > Dave B.
> > >
> > > On 10/25/13, ralph meyermann<ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > Still thinking/brainstorming/planning on how I could make it work.
> > >
> > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > > On Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM, "Scott Daniel"
> > > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's quite a bit of unused space above the transaxle in a 2WD
> > vanagon.
> > > > huge 'outside' area there ....just integrate the unit into that
> > > > rear firewall behind the rear seat.
> > > >
> > > > On 10/24/2013 5:33 PM, Mike B wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You can't integrate "everything" into the interior. The
> > > >> condenser and it's fan still must be mounted outside or be able
> > > >> to exhaust it's hot air to the outside or it won't cool the
interior.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/24/2013 8:09 PM, ralph meyermann wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Volks! I have a possibly crazy but possibly doable idea. I
> > > >>> am thinking about getting a new 110v window a/c unit,
> > > >>> disassembling it and integrating it into the interior and
> > > >>> underneath reconnect everything recharge
> > with
> > > >>> refrigerant and tie it into the the 110v of the van. Some slim
> > > >>> low
> > amp
> > > >>> 110v fans will be needed. Am I the only one thinking with this
> > possible
> > > >>> nonsense?
> > > >>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
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