Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:37:40 -0700
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: idea?
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Reading this thread, and recalling my bicycling experience along the
southeastern coast of the U.S. one summer, all I can say here is that I
am goshdarn happy to be living in a place where the humidity is low
which means that the bug count is low, too. No air conditioners, no
addz-a-roomz required.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 10/27/2013 10:16 AM, ralph meyermann wrote:
> Planning on building a window unit into my Westy and possibly an inverter
> for a/c while driving too.
>
> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> On Oct 27, 2013 9:27 AM, "Harry Hoffman" <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net> wrote:
>
>> Why not just buy a small generator/inverter powered by gas to run a window
>> a/c unit?
>> You can find ones on craigslist in the $300 range that will run the a/c
>> for you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Harry
>>
>> ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly my Westy being diesel never came with a/c, I would like to plug it
>> in
>>> to 110v at the campsite to keep weight low and keep as much storage as
>>> possible. Most of the campgrounds we visit the tent sites have power with
>>> many more campgrounds planning on adding power to their sites. I dont want
>>> a huge a/c, just a small one to knock the temp down a bit but mostly
>>> humidity.
>>>
>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>> On Oct 27, 2013 8:08 AM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you plan to dry camp you will need the space under the back seat for
>>>> batteries and the inverter. A pair of GC-2's and a 2,000 watt inverter
>> will
>>>> get you through the night. If willing to invest there are 12 volt AC
>>>> options. Also if the original AC system is intact a 110 volt compressor
>> can
>>>> be added and with a 12 volt power supply and a good control scheme use
>> the
>>>> existing condenser and evaporator.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>>>> ralph meyermann
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:16 AM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: idea?
>>>>
>>>> The plan for the a/c is for the sweltering nights. During the day we're
>>>> fine
>>>> just cant sleep while sweating to death. I figure cutting off the shaft
>> for
>>>> the condensing coil side and installing fan/fans where I relocate the
>>>> condensing coil.
>>>>
>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>>> On Oct 25, 2013 10:07 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most all window AC use a single motor to drive both the evaporator and
>>>>> condenser fans. You also have to consider the position of the coils in
>>>>> relationship to the compressor so the oil circulates and travels
>>>>> through the compressor. Needing AC while camped is often the first
>>>>> sign your out growing the Westy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jim Felder
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:07 AM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> My brother and I were discussing cutting an AC unit in two and
>>>>> mounting part outside, part inside, under the rear seat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, it would be possible--but more difficult--to mount a split unit
>>>>> like that in the luggage rack with only vents down into the cabin, but
>>>>> the cabin roof would have to be penetrated and all the controls would
>>>>> have to be completely remoted. A weather cover would have to be
>>>>> created for the luggage rack mount. While the unit would not have to
>>>>> be "split" like it would if mounted under the seat (the whole thing
>>>>> would be mounted outside the
>>>>> vehicle) it would benefit from being rearranged to better fit the
>>>>> space in the luggage rack to keep the profile low.
>>>>>
>>>>> The underseat mount would allow you to use the faceplate of the unit
>>>>> just as it came from the factory as long as it was not more than 13
>>>>> inches tall.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem of making up some mounts is not trivial but not much
>>>>> harder than some intercooler mounts. I have a friend who works on this
>>>>> type of small window unit AC, and he said the only problem would be
>>>>> knowing where to cut the lines and then installing the valves and
>>>>> plumbing to allow evacuation and refill. He said he would show me when
>>>>> we had a unit to look at, which hasn't happened yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could put one in the closet, too, I think but it wold be even
>>>>> harder to split the unit using that space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would love to hear from anyone who has modified a unit by cutting and
>>>>> modifying the tubing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, ralph meyermann
>>>>> <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct placement is a must for issues like that. If I use the front
>>>>>> part of the original unit, it would simplify the controls too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013 7:40 AM, <ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Careful how you use that space above the transaxle. It could
>>>>>>> cause a space restriction should you decide to remove the engine
>> or
>>>> starter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/25/13, ralph meyermann<ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still thinking/brainstorming/planning on how I could make it work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM, "Scott Daniel"
>>>>>>> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's quite a bit of unused space above the transaxle in a 2WD
>>>>>> vanagon.
>>>>>>>> huge 'outside' area there ....just integrate the unit into that
>>>>>>>> rear firewall behind the rear seat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2013 5:33 PM, Mike B wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't integrate "everything" into the interior. The
>>>>>>>>> condenser and it's fan still must be mounted outside or be able
>>>>>>>>> to exhaust it's hot air to the outside or it won't cool the
>>>> interior.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2013 8:09 PM, ralph meyermann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Volks! I have a possibly crazy but possibly doable idea. I
>>>>>>>>>> am thinking about getting a new 110v window a/c unit,
>>>>>>>>>> disassembling it and integrating it into the interior and
>>>>>>>>>> underneath reconnect everything recharge
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> refrigerant and tie it into the the 110v of the van. Some slim
>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>> 110v fans will be needed. Am I the only one thinking with this
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>> nonsense?
>>>>>>>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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