Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:28:15 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 5 speeds, was: Noisy transaxle??
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Yes, but if you got EVERYTHING--mounts, shifter, transmission, box, stick,
etc from an 83 it should be a piece of cake, right? the only original piece
in the drivetrain wold be the engine.
Jim
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:26 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> As Scott said, changing to a 5 speed is not a simple bolt in starting
> out with an 82 diesel van. The engine is mounted too far forward for the
> longer tranny and there are some complications with the linkage even if
> you get the 5 speed linkage parts. I won't go into all the details but
> it is a project to do it. In 83 they moved the diesel engines back for
> the newer type of trannys and changed a bunch of related things. The 83
> and newer diesels and waterboxers are built to accept either a 5 speed
> or 4 speed with little other change needed. Earlier vans have some
> issues to deal with. Sorry.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ralph meyermann wrote:
>
>> Think I can handle that pattern, now the hard part of bolting it in and
>> the
>> connection of the shift linkage.
>>
>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>> On Oct 22, 2013 4:08 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The layout for a factory five-speed is all the way left and forward,
>>> reverse. All the way left and back, first. Forward in the middle slot,
>>> second. Pull back into third. Forward to the right is fourth, and you
>>> pull
>>> back into fifth. Fourth and fifth on all but your very steepest hills,
>>> that's what you get with a five speed. There is no pushing down to engage
>>> any gears, just click click click. Mine was rebuilt 100K miles ago and
>>> shifts very smoothly and precisely.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, ralph meyermann <
>>> ralphmeyermann@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> so instead of pushing down left and forward for reverse, it would be
>>>> down
>>>> left then back ? I could handle that, Velma is primarily a road
>>>> trip/camping vehicle. This is my first VW and not informed on the
>>>> various
>>>> shift patterns.
>>>>
>>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>>>> On Oct 22, 2013 3:02 PM, "mark drillock" <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no way to make 4 gears as useful as 5 for a non-tdi diesel.
>>>>> Spreading out 4 gears to cover the same range as 5 leaves gaps that the
>>>>> weaker engine can't deal with.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't need to go down before left if you have the original 5 speed
>>>>> shifter. If you use the 4 speed shifter then the reverse lockout guide
>>>>> blocks 1st so you have to go down before you go left and back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> Stacy Schneider wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> First is like going in to reverse on a classic beetle every
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> you come away from a stop sign .
>>>>>> Of course this is my opinion . Some people may just shift
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> it and put the wear on their clutch instead .
>>>>>> Sure it may give you a spread in shifting . But so will a
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> built. 4 speed and none of the dreaded down and left every time you
>>>>>>
>>>>> stop .
>>>>
>>>>> My. 914/6 had the same set up ,except you didn't have to push
>>>>>> down to get in gear and I didn't 't care for it either. .
>>>>>> I grew up driving and stick and have never owned any thing
>>>>>>
>>>>> else
>>>>
>>>>> . In my opinion 1st gear belongs up and left . Add as many gears on
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> end , I am fine as well . But left and down for 1 st ,no thanks .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stacy
>>>>>> Vanagonsplus.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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