Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:45:45 -0700
Reply-To: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: idea?
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I hear you loud and clear on this Jim. Our vanagons/westies are not just
campers. They are mobile offices/hotels/tool sheds/moving van/dumpster
which is what makes them so unique
and versatile. Unfortunately, the simplicity of them also makes it
difficult to use in the
extreme weather (usually hot) unless you can plug in a portable AC unit.
That is the difficult
nut to crack so to speak. In the interest of getting a portable AC and if
I had to do business as
you do Jim, I would opt for the smallest RV rooftop unit I could find and
run a generator and
write it off as a business expense. You are, after all, using it for
business, so why not?
Steven
91 Westy
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my case, I have never spent the night outdoors in Alabama that I cold
> not endure. It is the afternoons, in some remote campground, miles from
> anything remotely scenic, preparing for a meeting or presentation the next
> morning, that are hard to endure. From about two until sundown, the sun
> beats in on the side of the van and the temperature skyrockets. There is
> nothing to do but wait it out. AC would be nice.
>
> Some people use their vans for other things besides recreational camping.
> So, no I don't think it's case of outgrowing the Westy.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM, ralph meyermann
> <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > The plan for the a/c is for the sweltering nights. During the day we're
> > fine just cant sleep while sweating to death. I figure cutting off the
> > shaft for the condensing coil side and installing fan/fans where I
> > relocate the condensing coil.
> >
> > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > On Oct 25, 2013 10:07 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Most all window AC use a single motor to drive both the evaporator and
> > > condenser fans. You also have to consider the position of the coils in
> > > relationship to the compressor so the oil circulates and travels
> through
> > > the
> > > compressor. Needing AC while camped is often the first sign your out
> > > growing
> > > the Westy.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Jim Felder
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:07 AM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: idea?
> > >
> > > My brother and I were discussing cutting an AC unit in two and mounting
> > > part
> > > outside, part inside, under the rear seat.
> > >
> > > Also, it would be possible--but more difficult--to mount a split unit
> > like
> > > that in the luggage rack with only vents down into the cabin, but the
> > cabin
> > > roof would have to be penetrated and all the controls would have to be
> > > completely remoted. A weather cover would have to be created for the
> > > luggage
> > > rack mount. While the unit would not have to be "split" like it would
> if
> > > mounted under the seat (the whole thing would be mounted outside the
> > > vehicle) it would benefit from being rearranged to better fit the space
> > in
> > > the luggage rack to keep the profile low.
> > >
> > > The underseat mount would allow you to use the faceplate of the unit
> just
> > > as
> > > it came from the factory as long as it was not more than 13 inches
> tall.
> > >
> > > The problem of making up some mounts is not trivial but not much harder
> > > than
> > > some intercooler mounts. I have a friend who works on this type of
> small
> > > window unit AC, and he said the only problem would be knowing where to
> > cut
> > > the lines and then installing the valves and plumbing to allow
> evacuation
> > > and refill. He said he would show me when we had a unit to look at,
> which
> > > hasn't happened yet.
> > >
> > > You could put one in the closet, too, I think but it wold be even
> harder
> > to
> > > split the unit using that space.
> > >
> > > Would love to hear from anyone who has modified a unit by cutting and
> > > modifying the tubing.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM, ralph meyermann
> > > <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Correct placement is a must for issues like that. If I use the front
> > > > part of the original unit, it would simplify the controls too?
> > > >
> > > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > > > On Oct 25, 2013 7:40 AM, <ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Careful how you use that space above the transaxle. It could cause
> > > > > a space restriction should you decide to remove the engine or
> > starter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave B.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/25/13, ralph meyermann<ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Still thinking/brainstorming/planning on how I could make it work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > > > > On Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM, "Scott Daniel" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > There's quite a bit of unused space above the transaxle in a 2WD
> > > > vanagon.
> > > > > > huge 'outside' area there ....just integrate the unit into that
> > > > > > rear firewall behind the rear seat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/24/2013 5:33 PM, Mike B wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> You can't integrate "everything" into the interior. The
> condenser
> > > > > >> and it's fan still must be mounted outside or be able to exhaust
> > > > > >> it's hot air to the outside or it won't cool the interior.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 10/24/2013 8:09 PM, ralph meyermann wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi Volks! I have a possibly crazy but possibly doable idea. I
> am
> > > > > >>> thinking about getting a new 110v window a/c unit,
> disassembling
> > > > > >>> it and integrating it into the interior and underneath
> reconnect
> > > > > >>> everything recharge
> > > > with
> > > > > >>> refrigerant and tie it into the the 110v of the van. Some slim
> > > > > >>> low
> > > > amp
> > > > > >>> 110v fans will be needed. Am I the only one thinking with this
> > > > possible
> > > > > >>> nonsense?
> > > > > >>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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