Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:49:16 -0500
Reply-To: Evan Martin <7martinn@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Evan Martin <7martinn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Coleman Camping Gear? No more.
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how about this one:
http://www.jarden.com/
this Jarden looks a little more reputable. Not based in Nigeria, anyway :
) .
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>wrote:
> Okay, it's Friday in Britain.
>
> Coleman is another of the old guard American manufacturing companies that
> has gone through a series of acquisitions. Today it's owned by Jardin
> Corporation, an investment group that buys companies based on brand
> recognition and turns them around. Check out their website and you'll be
> surprised at some of the brands they own: www.jardin.com.
>
> They are not a bad outfit, but they do squeeze the profit out at the
> expense
> of other things (like people and salaries--my daughter used to work for one
> of their brands). It's just business: Profit or die, and at least these
> brands are still around, and they wouldn't be otherwise.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Al Knoll
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:37 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: NVC: Coleman Camping Gear? No more.
>
> Not your grampa's Coleman Company. Been trying to get a replacement
> under warranty for a HWOD "Hot water on demand" device for almost
> 30days. No suds. The conversations go back to the first of October.
> So here's the tale:
>
> First they say that they can and will replace it.
>
> Time passes.
>
> Then some kokamommie horsepucks about not being able to ship sealed
> lead acid batteries to CA. (MOTSBS) Claiming a CA law forbids it.
> This is news to FEDEX and UPS, I called em, they say no probs, mark
> the box "contains non-spillable gel-cel or seal battery" with a felt
> pen on the side where the shipping label goes. Called CA Hazmat
> office conveniently located right here in downtowncowtown, feller says
> we have no such regulation and points me to the requisite Federal
> Regs. Mark the box. Done Deal.
>
> Time passes.
>
> But Wait! We'll send you a 'gift card for the amount of your unit
> (presuming they mean the HWOD).
>
> Time passes.
>
> Then today. Harrumph! Another missive from the folks with the burned
> feet. (They got burned from repeated contact with the dropped burger
> patties in their previous career). All we have is Hope, see below.
> Last week they had to shut down when the pencil sharpener jammed.
>
> >>I'm very sorry for the inconvenience that this has caused you. This
> has been escalated, and I'm personally monitoring the status of the
> gift card. We have put a rush on the gift card. Unfortunately I cannot
> provide you with an exact date that you will receive the gift card,
> but I'm confident you will receive it soon.
>
> Thanks
> Hope Korte
> Associate, Consumer Service Support
> Customer By Email (Al Knoll)10/31/2013 01:41 PM
> Coleman Consumer Service consumerservice@mailnj.custhelp.com
>
> Sorry, no cigar. You HAVE NOT BEEN A SERVICE TO ME! (Yes I'm
> SHOUTING) Howabout you gitchaself over to the clog in the system pick
> up said card, and personally send it to me, TODAY would be fine.
> Enclose your business card and the name of the clod in the churn, so I
> don't blame you. Registered Mail. So we're sure what is really
> going on. Try Cabelas if you want to see what Customer Service is all
> about. Or my old alma-mater Hewlett Packard .
>
> This sort of stuff might qualify as elder abuse in my case and that's
> not a good thing to have on your company or personal resume,
>
> Oh yeah change that status to not solved.
>
> Sheesh. Grumble..Growl..
> <<<
>
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