Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:55:23 -0700
Reply-To: Al Knoll <anasasi@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Al Knoll <anasasi@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Quick and easy auxiliary heat
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An old bag , 750fill, or a new one?
Consensual cuddling is allowed. Old bag or not.
Pensionerd. Who was once quoted Cuddling with and old bag beats a
new bag alone anytime
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nothing sleeps as warm as a down bag....
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From my days in Alaska I've still got an Alaska goose down sleeping
>> robe. Jack Frost - bring it on!!!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2013 5:51 PM, Al Knoll wrote:
>>
>>> New dog? or two?
>>>
>>> Woolies?
>>>
>>> A legendary organic squirrel coat?
>>>
>>> Pensionerd.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am going to do a one night camp at Surly Darkness tomorrow night and
>>>> have
>>>> been experimenting with ways to add some extra heat independent of my
>>>> propane
>>>> catalytic unit.
>>>>
>>>> I am doing a couple of things, both are quite simple.
>>>>
>>>> First, preheat the interior as much as possible. I am using a 1200 watt
>>>> electric heater running at 500 watts (low). My current outside
>>>> temperature is
>>>> 39F, and my van has been at 75F for over 24 hours. There is a lot of
>>>> heat
>>>> stored in the interior, especially the 150 lbs of the battery bank.
>>>>
>>>> Second, to heat things up quickly (when the interior was at 37F
>>>> yesterday), I
>>>> bought 2 4.5 gallon water containers from Fleet Farm. They actually
>>>> hold 5.5
>>>> gallons or 46 lbs of water. My hot water temperature at home is 148F.
>>>> If you
>>>> do some simple math where 1 lb of water heated 1 degree F, or cooled, is
>>>> 1 BTU.
>>>> I am assuming the low temperature cutoff is 80F. So (148-80) * 46 is
>>>> 3128
>>>> BTUs. I have 2 of those containers. That is more than 2 hours of my
>>>> propane
>>>> 3000 BTU heater. I am using those during the preheat stage and will
>>>> refill
>>>> them for the camping stage.
>>>>
>>>> I also plan to fill the tank in the van with the same temperature water
>>>> and
>>>> leave the top cover open. I think that's another 11 gallons, so would
>>>> add
>>>> 2*3128 or 6256 BTUs. Between that, the van 24 hour preheat, my body
>>>> heat,
>>>> waste heat from the fridge, and the heater, I expect I will be very snug
>>>> tomorrow night at Darkness Day Eve. Overnight temperatures are expected
>>>> to be
>>>> around freezing depending on cloud cover.
>>>>
>>>> I hope someone else from the list will be there. We see people from all
>>>> over
>>>> the continent. Good beer, good people.
>>>>
>>>> tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------**-----------
>>>> Tom Ring K0TAR EN34hx
>>>>
>>>> Never attribute to engineers that into which politicians, lawyers,
>>>> accountants, and marketeers have poked their fingers.
>>>> ------------------------------**-----------
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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