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Date:         Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:47:16 -0800
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Propex alternative?
Comments: To: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2013110419143766@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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Wow, 50 btu an hour and more ellipses than a turboscott posting!

What's not to like?

Alistair

> On Nov 4, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM> wrote: > > Here is one that I had ordered for a different thing But I plan on > giving it a try in the ol vanagon. Has not come in yet. and candles > are usually cheap. > > I have had many thoughts on the heat for the interior. I have > Multiple heaters that I use and have from old school style to modern stuff. > The quiet factor of a candle seems like a choice I might like and > won't use propane or Gas or kerosene and won't deplete boat loads of O2 > > But here is the link if you want to check it out. All in good fun. I > think if you had a good insulation on the pop top and or on the > windows this might be the way to go. > > http://www.heatstick.com/_KanHeet01.htm > > C-ya Jonce > > Of course it could catch the whole vanagon on fire but hey at least > you were warm. > >> Following the thread along. Seems there are several popular heater >> types, ranging from the unglazed ceramic inverted on the westy stove, >> to full blown furnaces (propex is a furnace). Coleman (RIP) had >> propane catalytics for years and mine still work pretty well. Then >> other radiant heaters like buddys, black cats, and so on rounding out >> the bunch, with the exception of Rocket's kero blaster they all run on >> either petrol or LPG. Now since amount of energy going from fuel to >> water and CO2 is gained by breaking CH bonds is proportional to the >> number of bonds broken in the process, the most efficient is the Kero >> using long chain hydrocarbons as the energy source. The least >> efficient is the Propane. So for more BTU per buck stick with the >> most efficient. >> >> Lighting one candle with nominal airflow will keep the inside warmish >> until you can caffeine or mate' up. Several of our esteemed >> adventurers keep the lid up but with a heat isolating membrane over >> the upstairs to keep a modicum of the expensive hot air (we see a lot >> of that around these days) in the cabin. Bob has one I think. A >> sleepytime hat will do wonders for those of little thatch. And I use >> a makeshift shawl around my shoulders made of dead synchilla skins, >> adjusted to cover those nasty drafts. >> >> Oh ya, I do have a wondrous old propex which whines away under the >> seat on occasion. >> >> Some years a go a fellow in colorado made and marketed a certified >> radiant heater with an exhaust system to vac the nasties outside. >> Disremember the fellow and the name of the heater. >> >> The organic squirrel coats can be a problem as the squirrels tend to >> come out of hibernation and scurry around inside the coat. >> >> Pensionerd.,


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