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Date:         Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:33:08 -0500
Reply-To:     Steve Cotsford <cotsford@AOL.COM>
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From:         Steve Cotsford <cotsford@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: making a little headway but need advice
Comments: To: Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAB2RwfhfNkcxmgwQXwSwgnn0=SjTdCWLVNN3=wA6gZay4eMKLA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you Neil. I have already just done the testing that you were so helpful in pointing me to. The dizzy I made sure will go back to where it came from. You are right, the hall switch turns the fuel pump on when you twist the rotor around on so the 30-87 relay bypass is not needed. It seems I have just 1 injector out of the 4 that is pulsing fuel, on l/h bank, so I have 3 injectors that are not injecting so to speak. No wonder I was not getting far. Now I have to make those 3 injectors work :-( Is there an easy way of doing that? I have no idea when last these injectors worked. Certainly they have been sitting idle for at least 6 months in my possession. 38 psi did not make it happen :-) Thanks for your help ! I'm a lot further ahead now. Good idea to replace the O rings. Thanks......Steve

On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Neil N wrote:

> Removing and bypassing the fuel pump relay (connecting socket 30 to 87 > as shown in Bentley) might be needed, but wouldn't the hall signal > pulse the fuel pump? I've never done this test. > > You obviously know this but for anyone else, be sure not to turn turn > the engine with dizzy up and away from the drive gear. > > For removing injectors for spray test, I'd apply penetrating fluid to > each 10mm head bolt on each fuel injector hold down bracket. A medium > rap with a hammer couldn't hurt. Beware of Corrosion and Time... ;) > > With each bolt off, each pair of injectors comes away the intake > manifold. At the very least, replace the O-rings at tip of each > injector. The larger O-rings might be ok but if they look old, I'd > replace them but this may take you into fuel line replacement time. > ;) > > Neil. > > On 12/7/13, Steve Cotsford <cotsford@aol.com> wrote: >> Thanks Neil. I will try this valuable information. >> It sounds like the Hall effect switch in the distributor controls the timing >> of the injector firing, not just the spark plugs and mechanically >> disengaging the distributor from its drive allows you to turn it while >> engine is stationary...thanks, that is very helpful. Logically, shorting >> across the fuel pump relay will give me active fuel pressure to watch the >> injector outputs while turning the dizzie. If the 2 on the left bank >> are firing as I think they are, then the 2 on the right hand bank should >> fire at the same time and if they don't then logically they are plugged up >> or something is amiss in the wiring which I think is doubtful. Is >> there a diy way to unplug them? >> >> Cheers, Steve > > -- > Neil n > > Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca > > '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p > > '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group: > > http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej


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