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Date:         Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:47:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Steve Cotsford <cotsford@AOL.COM>
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From:         Steve Cotsford <cotsford@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: making a little headway but need advice
Comments: To: Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <5D1327A5-CE5D-40A9-ABDB-550763816AF7@aol.com>
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Hi Neil. I did a little more checking. It seems that each FI plug does have a constant B+ on one side. For me it was showing 11.75 Volts As I was doing this testing with the pump relay in place, I noticed that the B+ was only present when the pump was running and when it disappeared and the pump turned off, this is when the injector sprayed. I'm not sure what that means and I will have to do some more reading but as the signal seemed identical at all 4 plugs, I'm pretty sure it means that the 3 injectors that are not spraying are doing so because of a fault within them each. Steve

On Dec 7, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Steve Cotsford wrote:

> Thanks Neil for this additional info. This means that the injector switching is done on the negative side and nothing will happen to the injectors if the constant B+ is missing. > Yes, the good injector did spray each and every time I moved the rotor. I even switched the plug of that injector with the one right next to it. Only the same injector sprayed, thus confirming that the other one could not. I might even switch that 1 good injector over to the other bank and see if those plugs make it work. If each plug fires the good injector, this will tell me that the r/h injectors are faulty too and that the ECU and/or wiring is doing its job. Steve > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Neil N wrote: > >> Ign. on, each FI plug should have a constant B+ on one side. There is >> a B+ junction in the black junction box. IIRC, this supplies B+ to >> FI's. The test should be shown in Bentley for this. Also, check >> continuity between each FI plug negative wire and ECU plug. The FI's >> are activated by a supplied negative ground from the ECU. I see this >> as ECU 12. >> >> I find it hard to believe that 3 injectors are faulty. But as you say, >> the engine has sat some time unused. >> >> Is the known good injector spraying each and every time? >> >> >> On 12/7/13, Steve Cotsford <cotsford@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> It seems I have just 1 injector out of the 4 that is pulsing fuel, on l/h >>> bank, so I have 3 injectors that are not injecting so to speak. No wonder >>> I was not getting far. >>> Now I have to make those 3 injectors work :-( Is there an easy way of >>> doing that? I have no idea when last these injectors worked. >>> Certainly they have been sitting idle for at least 6 months in my >>> possession. 38 psi did not make it happen :-) >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil n >> >> Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca >> >> '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p >> >> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> >> Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej


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