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Date:         Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:17:12 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
Subject:      Re: [OT] Efficiency of electric heaters?
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <52A5F586.3020003@gmail.com>
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What I guessed you meant. The oil filled heaters, to me, are a more pleasant and gentle heat. Efficient? Dunno.

Karl Wolz Sent from my electronic umbilicus

> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > To be clear, when I said "oil filled" heaters, I wasn't referring to > heaters that use oil as a fuel, we don't do that here on the West Side > of the USA near as I know. I meant the kind that look vaguely like an > old-school steam radiator which are filled with oil -- possibly mineral > oil -- and the electric heating elements heat the oil, which is then > radiated by the "fins" of the heater. > > -- > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > Bend, Ore. > >> On 12/09/2013 08:33 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote: >> For the most part you are correct. Different types of heaters do "feel" better for various reasons. Depending on your electric rate electric may be competitive with oil. >> >> Dennis, >> From my phone. >> ________________________________ >> From: Rocket J Squirrel<mailto:camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> >> Sent: ‎12/‎9/‎2013 10:59 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Subject: [OT] Efficiency of electric heaters? >> >> Hi all, >> >> (This is not Vanagon-related but I don't know another pool of engineers >> and scientists to write to, so I'm writing here for help.) >> >> It's pretty cold here in Bend, Oregon, and the house that her son is >> renting is colder than he'd like. It's an older house, built cheaply, >> and only has electric baseboard heaters -- no gas, no fireplace. >> >> Mrs Elliott has been looking at electric heaters and asks whether some >> put out more heat than others. "1500 Watts is 1500 Watts, same BTUs" I sez. >> >> I sez, "It doesn't matter whether the heating elements are fifteen >> one-hundred Watt light bulbs, or whether the heating elements are put in >> an oil bath; it doesn't matter whether they write the words `infrared' >> or `quartz' on the enclosure: you'll put the same heat into the room. >> All heaters are alike in terms of heat output. >> >> "Sure, an infrared heater can be `aimed' directly at your body, which is >> real nice; and others have blowers that can direct the heated air and >> stir the air to keep the colder air from pooling on the floor, but in >> terms of how warm the overall air in the room eventually gets, all 1500 >> Watt heaters are the same." >> >> That's what I sez. But she knows I'm a bit of an idiot sometimes and is >> tempted by expensive 1500 Watt heaters, thinking there must be a reason >> why they promote this quartz or that oil-filled feature. She points out >> that when you turn off an oil-filled heater, it still radiates heat for >> quite some time afterwards; I point out that the slow cooling is matched >> by slower warming. >> >> Can the engineers and scientists in the room comment on this matter? So >> that This Marriage Can Be Saved? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. >> >> (Probably don't want to clutter up the list with this, please email to >> me directly.) >> >> -- >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, >> Bend, Ore. >>


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