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Date:         Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:08:00 -0800
Reply-To:     Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gas question, seriously folks
Comments: To: Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To:  <1839B193-C6C3-4956-912F-3A3C462580DE@comcast.net>
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> ..... It's me for sure!

Now I'm not sure what that means! ;)

Sorry. I wasn't super clear.

Was suggesting that Ethanol blend gasoline MAY adversely effect older types of fuel injection rated hose. Not knowing details (i.e. your recent install of new hoses) was suggesting this as a possibility. I'll use my '88 as an example.

There was very likely still some old OEM fuel hose still in place. The images below say a lot. Rusty clamps, OEM type of collar that "permanently" connects the fuel hose to the injector. This could indicate original hoses (I doubt these were replaced with actual OEM Vanagon parts). Another clue to possible install of incorrectly rated hose: crappy worm gear hose clamps.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l9SBND8VbDg/UqzU5iqThQI/AAAAAAAAIss/hEzzgw35Ff8/s640/OEM%2520WBX%2520Injectors%2520etc.%2520%253F.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zrMCZVj41ZI/UqzU7Cn3FiI/AAAAAAAAIs0/3iRz0p8M3D8/s720/OEM%2520WBX%2520injectors%25202.jpg

But I digress.....

As for my comment on "no leaks", meant to say that 5/16" (instead of the metric sized hose) has been leak free. i.e. it seems to fit fine. Others have used this size of hose.

Neil.

On 12/14/13, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm a bit confused by your answer. It's me for sure! Are you > saying that the fuel lines in my van, if appropriate for regular gas from > the 198's is now likely to fail with modern gas? > > My engine compartment fuel lines were change this past June by a kit from > Ken Wilford so I'm assuming I'm ok but it would be good to know.

> Eric Caron > 85 GL Westfalia Auto > On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would suggest that one possible concern are the fuel hoses you're >> using. This has been commented on before. Info should be in the >> archives. >> >> I don't recall the exact PN etc but search Gates online and find fuel >> injection rated (higher PSI) hose that is rated for ethanol blended >> fuel. I installed Gates 5/16" hose on my '88 and '81. The '81 has a >> different engine but in terms of fuel hose, not really a factor. No >> leaks and neither seem adversely affected so far.

-- Neil n

Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca

'88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p

'81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/

Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:

http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej


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