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Date:         Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:00:40 -0600
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for Grounding Star
Comments: To: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <52A786E7.1020901@turbovans.com>
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Funny. A few years back a friend called me from his mom's house where his Volvo would not start. Weird stuff going on. Ran a jumper cable from engine to neg battery, that did it.

Let's call it the Stockholm Syndrome.

Jim

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>wrote:

> here's a good ground loop story then. > I tuned up a car , a volvo , once upon a time. > When it was time to start it .. > 'the only' thing that would happen is the headlights would come on dimly .. > nothing else.. > just turn the key to start ..headlights come on dimly. 'That's all you > get." > > It just happened to occur to me to put a big jumper cable from engine > block to Batt negative post.. > yep ..that did it. > > On that particular car design the main ground cable was under the > battery where it was covered and eaten away by battery acid. See > ..engineers and designers are not that smart sometimes. > > Nice easy fix.. > lucky I found it so easily. > > Scott > > > > SOn 12/10/2013 12:31 PM, Todd Last wrote: > >> You could also get a grounding buss bar for the grounds to substitute for >> the star, or using a long screw, use that to have multiple grounds on one >> screw arranged in a star pattern with eye connectors. The idea with a star >> ground, or buss bar is to eliminate ground loops. That is usually more >> important in electronic equipment than cars, but I have seen some odd >> things happen in cars that had phantom current traveling in odd ways >> because of ground loops or bad grounds. >> >> Todd >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Scott Daniel" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:22:56 AM >> Subject: Re: Looking for Grounding Star >> >> I don't even recommend using them. >> All spade type connections weaken or corrode after a while. >> >> Far better IMO is the eye terminal with a screw through it. .. >> and I learned this additional neat trick by observing that Renault did >> this on their 1970 R16 car's tail light ground wires. >> I noticed that in about 1980 and have been doing it ever since. >> >> get some of those pointy star lock washers. >> Install that between the metal body of the van and the wire's eye >> terminal. >> the sharp points dig in nicely.. >> that will be a solid ground for years and years. >> >> scott >> >> >> >> On 12/10/2013 9:39 AM, JRodgers wrote: >> >>> Does anyone have n extra one of these. >>> >>> They mount on the side just under the dash. I sure could use an extra if >>> anyone wants to part with one. >>> >>> JOHn >>> >>>


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