Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:31:08 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: Van Dies while in motion
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There are two sides to this quite old notion ..about putting batteries
on concrete, that dates possibly from an era where a different battery
case material was used than is currnetly in use.
Road & Track Magazine researched *** 20 years or more ago*** and
said it might actually be good to put a battery on concrete floor.
and today Snopes.com says .....just like I said above,
shoot , it won't paste and copy the text , see it here :
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
And yes ...it is true that batteries get a conductive thin layer of
acid on top of them ( conventional vented lead-acid batteries ) and that
very slightly can help discharge a battery over time.
And the good thing to do is buy the type of spray battery cleaner that
cleans acid off batteries and also turns red when it encounters acid so
you can tell where there is acid.
Stay Current !
People study and read don't they ?? Knowledge grows, changes, morphs.
Every old wives tail there is can be researched on the incredible
'Infinite Library' we have right here at our fingertips .
Virtually *anything* you can think of that you can put on a computer
screen ..
a bare part number ..a bit of slang ...even a '!' , or '3' or xxxooo ,
whatever. Try it, google "x."
You can google a period.
's so fun,
scott
Car batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
Car batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
ar batteries used to be encased in hard rubber, a substance that was
porous enough that battery acid could seep through it and create a
conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery. The
cases of today's batteries, however, are made of sturdier stuff that far
better contains their contents than those of yesteryear. As well, time
has brought technological improvements to the seals around the posts and
the vent systems.
These days, the problem of car battery electrolyte seepage and migration
has been all but eliminated. Says battery manufacturer Yuasa
<http://www.yuasabatteries.com/faqs.php?action=1&id=20>, "Nowadays,
containers are made from a solid plastic that does not allow any current
to flow through it, so the batteries do not discharge, even if they sit
in a few inches of water."
Interestingly, some experts (including Car Talk's Click and Clack)
believe that storing car batteries on concrete floors might actually be
a better idea than keeping them on shelves or other surfaces because the
cold of the floor works to slow the self-discharge (leakage) rate.
Read more at
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/battery.asp#biAmDwJlAiCb4PYz.99
On 12/20/2013 8:05 PM, JRodgers wrote:
> As some have suggested - try another battery. If it turns out you wind
> up with an extra battery, or have your good one out for a while - don't
> park it on the ground or the garage floor. Sit it on a board some bit
> wider than the battery, or on a piece of foam rubber insulation or some
> of that foam rubber flooring. Batteries will tend to discharge if
> sitting directly on a grounding surface. The way they are built you
> wouldn't think so - but I think what happens is that over time a fine
> ionized mist eventually envelopes the battery surface on the outside and
> this provides a grounding path for a slow trickle discharge. So
> basically get it up off the floor onto something electrically insulated.
>
> John
>