Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:29:17 -0600
Reply-To: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
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From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas question, seriously folks
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Neil,
My view is if your fuel lines/hoses have not been changed in the last
five years - then it is time to do so. $12/year for fuel line safety is
pretty cheap($60 kit divided by 5 years)Just be sure your new fuel hoses
are properly rated as FI hose and OK for alcohol.
John
On 12/14/2013 4:08 PM, Neil N wrote:
>> ..... It's me for sure!
>
> Now I'm not sure what that means! ;)
>
> Sorry. I wasn't super clear.
>
> Was suggesting that Ethanol blend gasoline MAY adversely effect older
> types of fuel injection rated hose. Not knowing details (i.e. your
> recent install of new hoses) was suggesting this as a possibility.
> I'll use my '88 as an example.
>
> There was very likely still some old OEM fuel hose still in place. The
> images below say a lot. Rusty clamps, OEM type of collar that
> "permanently" connects the fuel hose to the injector. This could
> indicate original hoses (I doubt these were replaced with actual OEM
> Vanagon parts). Another clue to possible install of incorrectly rated
> hose: crappy worm gear hose clamps.
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l9SBND8VbDg/UqzU5iqThQI/AAAAAAAAIss/hEzzgw35Ff8/s640/OEM%2520WBX%2520Injectors%2520etc.%2520%253F.jpg
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zrMCZVj41ZI/UqzU7Cn3FiI/AAAAAAAAIs0/3iRz0p8M3D8/s720/OEM%2520WBX%2520injectors%25202.jpg
>
> But I digress.....
>
> As for my comment on "no leaks", meant to say that 5/16" (instead of
> the metric sized hose) has been leak free. i.e. it seems to fit fine.
> Others have used this size of hose.
>
> Neil.
>
>
> On 12/14/13, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm a bit confused by your answer. It's me for sure! Are you
>> saying that the fuel lines in my van, if appropriate for regular gas from
>> the 198's is now likely to fail with modern gas?
>>
>> My engine compartment fuel lines were change this past June by a kit from
>> Ken Wilford so I'm assuming I'm ok but it would be good to know.
>
>
>> Eric Caron
>> 85 GL Westfalia Auto
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would suggest that one possible concern are the fuel hoses you're
>>> using. This has been commented on before. Info should be in the
>>> archives.
>>>
>>> I don't recall the exact PN etc but search Gates online and find fuel
>>> injection rated (higher PSI) hose that is rated for ethanol blended
>>> fuel. I installed Gates 5/16" hose on my '88 and '81. The '81 has a
>>> different engine but in terms of fuel hose, not really a factor. No
>>> leaks and neither seem adversely affected so far.
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca
>
> '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p
>
> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej
>
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