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Date:         Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:51:53 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject:      Re: Parts? &Clunks&Bolts
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <BAY179-DS226352D7B36473CF9296DCA0D90@phx.gbl>
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'spensive all right..

one site shows $ 51.00 list, $ 46.50 discount price . http://www.eurothenticparts.com/oem-part/oem-volkswagen/sleeve/251-413-097-a

various sites call it a clamping sleeve, a sleeve, and a collet.

never needed one yet..not a wear item my world so far.

thanks for posting the part #. Scott

On 12/15/2013 11:26 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > The tapered ring part number is 251-413-097. It is also shockingly expensive > for what it is. All the hardware in front is property class 10.9, fine > thread, and not plated. From the factory there is a yellow organic or black > oxide coating. These connections relay on the clamp load to keep these in > place. The bushings you are using change things slightly but if the sleeves > can move you will in the future get to do some welding repairs as they wear > through those mounting tabs. BTDT! If replacing with American hardware you > want at least grade 8 and the fine thread. And it using washers make sure > they are also hardened. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > OlRivrRat > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:07 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Parts? &Clunks&Bolts > > Does anyone in this group know the Name &or PartNumber of what I am > going to refer to as the Tapered/Split/Compressible/Bushing that resides in > the RearHole of the LowerFrontShockMount on a 2WD Vanagon ~ The > LowerShockMountBolt passes through this Item & It appears to have > 2 functions ~ As the Bolt&Nut are Tightened it is Pressed into its > HoleOfResidence & so TightensUp against the ShockSpacer while @ the same > time its Taper&Spilt causes it to act like a Colette so it SnugsDown on the > Bolt ~ It seams that if any of its dimensions were to get reduced by Rust or > Corrosion or Wear or if the Hole that it Resides in were to get Enlarged by > Same, it would cease to be able to do its jobs correctly ~~ So I would like > to get some Spares if possible. > That Item has come to my attention as I have just done some R&R in > that area ~ For the 7Yrs that I have owned this 90Westy it has had a Clunk > in the FrontEnd that has sounded like a Loose Radiator or Bumper or > SuspensionPart & so over the years I have made sure that Rad' was secured > properly & I drove without the Bumper for a bit & I have replaced all of the > FrontSuspensionParts except for the LowerBallJoints ~~ None of which made > the Clunk stop ~ which BTW would only happen on Some bumps in the road not > all ~ A few weeks back I finally got up the nerve to replace the > FrontLower"A"ArmBushings using PolyBushings that I had gotten from Burley a > couple of years ago & while doing that I came to realize that the ID of > Burleys BushingSleeves/Spacers was 1/2In instead of 12mm so I decided to > replace the OEM 12mm Bolts with 1/2in ~ The new bushings made some Squeaks > go away but the Clunk was still there ~ A few days later I decided to do > something that I had thought about doing many times as I had heard that the > Clunk could be coming from the LowerShockMount & that OverTorquing that > Bolt&Nut might solve the issue but I had tried that without success & since > I had now gotten myself into a BoltUpsizingMood the 14mm ShockMountBolts got > replaced by 9/16In & I managed to find 1s with a NoThreadShoulder that was > JustLongEnough to SpanTheMount so nothing rides on any threads ~~ Viola ~~ > ClunkBeGone ~~ > > > ORR ~ DeanB >


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