Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:51:53 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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Subject: Re: Parts? &Clunks&Bolts
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'spensive all right..
one site shows $ 51.00 list, $ 46.50 discount price .
http://www.eurothenticparts.com/oem-part/oem-volkswagen/sleeve/251-413-097-a
various sites call it a clamping sleeve,
a sleeve, and a collet.
never needed one yet..not a wear item my world so far.
thanks for posting the part #.
Scott
On 12/15/2013 11:26 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> The tapered ring part number is 251-413-097. It is also shockingly expensive
> for what it is. All the hardware in front is property class 10.9, fine
> thread, and not plated. From the factory there is a yellow organic or black
> oxide coating. These connections relay on the clamp load to keep these in
> place. The bushings you are using change things slightly but if the sleeves
> can move you will in the future get to do some welding repairs as they wear
> through those mounting tabs. BTDT! If replacing with American hardware you
> want at least grade 8 and the fine thread. And it using washers make sure
> they are also hardened.
>
> Dennis
>
>
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> OlRivrRat
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> Subject: Parts? &Clunks&Bolts
>
> Does anyone in this group know the Name &or PartNumber of what I am
> going to refer to as the Tapered/Split/Compressible/Bushing that resides in
> the RearHole of the LowerFrontShockMount on a 2WD Vanagon ~ The
> LowerShockMountBolt passes through this Item & It appears to have
> 2 functions ~ As the Bolt&Nut are Tightened it is Pressed into its
> HoleOfResidence & so TightensUp against the ShockSpacer while @ the same
> time its Taper&Spilt causes it to act like a Colette so it SnugsDown on the
> Bolt ~ It seams that if any of its dimensions were to get reduced by Rust or
> Corrosion or Wear or if the Hole that it Resides in were to get Enlarged by
> Same, it would cease to be able to do its jobs correctly ~~ So I would like
> to get some Spares if possible.
> That Item has come to my attention as I have just done some R&R in
> that area ~ For the 7Yrs that I have owned this 90Westy it has had a Clunk
> in the FrontEnd that has sounded like a Loose Radiator or Bumper or
> SuspensionPart & so over the years I have made sure that Rad' was secured
> properly & I drove without the Bumper for a bit & I have replaced all of the
> FrontSuspensionParts except for the LowerBallJoints ~~ None of which made
> the Clunk stop ~ which BTW would only happen on Some bumps in the road not
> all ~ A few weeks back I finally got up the nerve to replace the
> FrontLower"A"ArmBushings using PolyBushings that I had gotten from Burley a
> couple of years ago & while doing that I came to realize that the ID of
> Burleys BushingSleeves/Spacers was 1/2In instead of 12mm so I decided to
> replace the OEM 12mm Bolts with 1/2in ~ The new bushings made some Squeaks
> go away but the Clunk was still there ~ A few days later I decided to do
> something that I had thought about doing many times as I had heard that the
> Clunk could be coming from the LowerShockMount & that OverTorquing that
> Bolt&Nut might solve the issue but I had tried that without success & since
> I had now gotten myself into a BoltUpsizingMood the 14mm ShockMountBolts got
> replaced by 9/16In & I managed to find 1s with a NoThreadShoulder that was
> JustLongEnough to SpanTheMount so nothing rides on any threads ~~ Viola ~~
> ClunkBeGone ~~
>
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
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