Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:35:37 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tire observation
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Let's not compare a "purpose" built vehicle destined for a limited few
purists to main stream market vehicles. There are folks that still pull all
the accessories out of sports cars including Camaros and Mustangs. I have an
88 fox and anyone who drives it complains about the lack of power steering
when the have to park it. Yes my fault for upgrading the tires from
155/80-13 to 185/60-14. However no way will I go back to the original size
for highway use especially in wet weather. My wife and I have use the
"Armstrong" power steering system.
Dennis
From: Scott Daniel [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 6:41 PM
To: Dennis Haynes; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Tire observation
How long did the Porsche 911 go in production before they finally put on
power steering ?
it's easy to search.
from Wikipedia .
The first 964s available in 1989 ..................
Power steering and ABS
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system> brakes were added
to the 911 for the first time; both were standard.
The 911 did without PS uo to 89.
The majority of Vanagons had power steering by 1985.
Vanagons "amongst the last breed' ...sure, as fair statement.
if you keep the original type tires on a non-PS vanagon ..
which can be tallish 14 inchers...they'll do pretty wellout the PS.
On 12/25/2013 11:46 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
In general a low traction-rolling resistance tire will also require less
steering effort. The two attributes do work together. There are exceptions
especially with the change to higher performance low profile tires. Here
they can increase traction and handling and also reduce rolling resistance.
However wider tires can still increase steering effort. The Vanagon is
probably amongst the last breed of vehicle available without power steering.
Dennis
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Don Hanson
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:05 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject: Tire observation
I recently swapped my 14" tires. I put my older Nokian Hakkapelitta C mud
and snow on the front, replacing Hankook RAO 8s that were even more worn
than the hakkas. This greatly increased the effort to steer at parking
speeds. I have no power steering. I have decent arm strength, but I now
find it quite a chore to turn the wheels without any movement of the van,
where with the RAO 8s, it was much easier. I have about 43psi (dunno how
many Barrs that is) in the tires. Once rolling and at higher speeds, the
Hakkas steer and track just fine.