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Just took my 88 Westy to and from the Florida Keys, starting in Pennsylvania. Worked like a champ except...
Three times around 20 degrees F the temperature and fuel gauges did not work on starting the van. Nor the temperature warning light. After ten minutes or so, the gauges came to life and worked the rest of the day. All the other gauges (oil pressure light, etc) worked fine. So, anyone can help me know where to look for an intermittent temperature related fault?
Thomas
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There are 15 messages totalling 621 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq) (6)
2. Happy New Year
3. SonofHibachi (3)
4. Peach clolor van's code? (4)
5. Peach clolor van's code?
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:32:40 -0800
From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
Central Oregon is high desert, not to be confused with the wetter (west)
side of the Cascades. If you're thinking fruit orchards, ferns,
redwoods, moss, and rhododendrons, that ain't here.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 01/03/2014 01:20 PM, Al Knoll wrote:
> Hi Rocket,
> Is pear wood suitable? Oregon pears are legendary. Our local almond
> orchards usually have lots of almond wood for sale. We do have to tote
> the wood rather than just forage at the site. Cabinet shops can be
> a haven for hardwood and trim scraps are often for the taking, but of
> course one must ask first.
> Pensionerd.
> Today is de-frocking day.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Rocket J Squirrel
> <camping.elliott@gmail.com <mailto:camping.elliott@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Here in Central Oregon, even when it's not fire season when all open and
> charcoal fires (anything that has hot coals) are banned, finding
> hardwood to burn -- less smoky, more btus per stick, better-tasting food
> -- is essentially impossible as the predominant trees in the forests
> here are conifers. I have not camped in all the public lands in the
> western U.S., but I believe that this is generally true throughout the
> region.
>
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>
>
> On 01/03/2014 09:36 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>
> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM
> <mailto:jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>
> RE burning wood...The point is, wood actually is a
> plentiful and useful fuel and it is a wonder that more stove
> systems do not
> use it.
> Jim
>
>
> Wood is not always a plentiful fuel. There are restrictions on
> gathering wood on a good deal of public land. If one relied on
> locally gathered wood in a large portion of Big Bend National
> Park, one would have to eat cold food. The same is true in many
> other national parks. Fire bans are common as well, but often
> allow liquid or gas fuel in appliances made for them.
>
> Despite the claims of manufacturers of wood burning appliances,
> wood is not pollution free fuel.
>
> Buying fuel from vendors is also problematic. It often comes
> from distant locations, resulting in transport of insect and
> disease pests into new areas. I once bought some bundled
> firewood at a California State Park, only to discover when I got
> to my camp with it that it had a tag on it showing that it
> originated in British Columbia.
>
> I do burn wood when in locations where it is available.
> Generally I use a fire ring and burn it in the open, but I
> have used some container type stoves as well. When wood is
> available and there are no environmental or agricultural reasons
> not to burn it, I do like to have a fire. And I like
> occasionally to cook a steak over wood coals.
>
> McNeely
>
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:05:37 -0800
From: MICHAEL H <vwdash80@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
... and liked it enough to send it to me in triplicate ... because Yooha is=
always improving ...=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: geo=
rge jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>=0ATo: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM =0ASent=
: Friday, January 3, 2014 10:48 AM=0ASubject: Re: Happy New Year=0A =0A=0A=
=A0 Looks as if Google liked my message so much it held onto it for three=
=0Adays.=0A=0A=A0 Brilliant!=0A=0AGeo/ATL.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:10:12 -0800
From: MICHAEL H <vwdash80@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
... got this one 14 times !! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Yooha !=0A=0A=0A______=
__________________________=0A From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>=0ATo:=
vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM =0ASent: Friday, January 3, 2014 11:13 AM=0ASubj=
ect: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)=0A =0A=0ARE bu=
rning wood... a few years back when my wife and I were backpacking a=0Alot,=
=A0
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 23:18:08 +0000
From: "Fuhrel, Robert" <robert.fuhrel@CSN.EDU>
Subject: SonofHibachi
I recently brought one from Las Vegas, where I had it for years, to Florida=
. It is bulky, slow to cool, quick to fire up, (as other posters have note=
d), fun to tell people about because of the name, and the grill plates even=
tually deteriorate. I used it many times out west when the park's pavilion=
s or built-in grills were reserved or already in use. Once, on a Mother's =
Day outing to southern Utah, when the engine on our '83 Westy blew out in t=
he Virgin River Gorge and we had to be towed into St. George and had to cam=
p in the parking lot of a Chevron station, in the rain, the SonofHibachi pe=
rformed like a champ. Our many Hawai'ian friends in Las Vegas never believ=
ed I had such a thing until I brought it to the horseshoe pits. I am so gl=
ad I never sold it but brought it to Florida instead. Get 'em while you can=
!
Best,
Bob
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:43:18 -0800
From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: SonofHibachi
I have one, but seldom use it. For searing a piece of meat the SoH works
fine, the coals being right under the grills. But it's not a real
multipurpose grill. For smoking and slow-cooking ribs or similar for
hours over a low heat (like 225F) the SoH doesn't work so good. I tend
to do more slow cooking and smoking when camping than I do searing. Not
that I don't like a nice steak properly seared . . .
When fires are permitted, I take a little Old Smokey #14 charcoal grill
for smoking and slow-cooking
<http://www.oldsmokey.com/pages/old-smokey-charcoal-grills>; and a
little charcoal grill for searing.
When fires are not permitted, I have a little propane grill that does a
pretty good job at both. Well, no, it doesn't get hot enough for proper
searing, but it works okay. When adjusted to low heat, and a water pan
under the meat to provide indirect heat, a foil packet of wood over the
burners, it does a decent job of smoking.
My $0.02 for the portable outdoor grill discussion.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 01/03/2014 03:18 PM, Fuhrel, Robert wrote:
> I recently brought one from Las Vegas, where I had it for years, to Florida. It is bulky, slow to cool, quick to fire up, (as other posters have noted), fun to tell people about because of the name, and the grill plates eventually deteriorate. I used it many times out west when the park's pavilions or built-in grills were reserved or already in use. Once, on a Mother's Day outing to southern Utah, when the engine on our '83 Westy blew out in the Virgin River Gorge and we had to be towed into St. George and had to camp in the parking lot of a Chevron station, in the rain, the SonofHibachi performed like a champ. Our many Hawai'ian friends in Las Vegas never believed I had such a thing until I brought it to the horseshoe pits. I am so glad I never sold it but brought it to Florida instead. Get 'em while you can!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Bob
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:46:55 -0600
From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
Pinyon, of whatever species, is excellent firewood, and great for cooking. Pinyon is common through much of the West and is sold as firewood wherever it occurs, though not in the NW. In fact, it has gained such a reputation as good firewood that it is marketed well east of its natural range for the purpose. Beetle killed lodge pole pine is also very good firewood, a fact I learned on a trip to Glacier National Park a couple of years ago. I was burning for my campfire fire killed wood in a section of the park where wood collecting was allowed. I did a favor for a fellow camper, and in return he supplied me with beetle killed lodge pole that he'd brought from his property a few miles away. In much of the West Coast area Douglas Fir is preferred over other conifers for firewood. When my daughter heated her house with wood while living on a University of California Research Preserve she used mostly Doug Fir. mcneely
---- Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here in Central Oregon, even when it's not fire season when all open and
> charcoal fires (anything that has hot coals) are banned, finding
> hardwood to burn -- less smoky, more btus per stick, better-tasting food
> -- is essentially impossible as the predominant trees in the forests
> here are conifers. I have not camped in all the public lands in the
> western U.S., but I believe that this is generally true throughout the
> region.
>
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>
> On 01/03/2014 09:36 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> > ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >> RE burning wood...The point is, wood actually is a
> >> plentiful and useful fuel and it is a wonder that more stove systems do not
> >> use it.
> >> Jim
> >>
> >
> > Wood is not always a plentiful fuel. There are restrictions on gathering wood on a good deal of public land. If one relied on locally gathered wood in a large portion of Big Bend National Park, one would have to eat cold food. The same is true in many other national parks. Fire bans are common as well, but often allow liquid or gas fuel in appliances made for them.
> >
> > Despite the claims of manufacturers of wood burning appliances, wood is not pollution free fuel.
> >
> > Buying fuel from vendors is also problematic. It often comes from distant locations, resulting in transport of insect and disease pests into new areas. I once bought some bundled firewood at a California State Park, only to discover when I got to my camp with it that it had a tag on it showing that it originated in British Columbia.
> >
> > I do burn wood when in locations where it is available. Generally I use a fire ring and burn it in the open, but I have used some container type stoves as well. When wood is available and there are no environmental or agricultural reasons not to burn it, I do like to have a fire. And I like occasionally to cook a steak over wood coals.
> >
> > McNeely
> >
--
David McNeely
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:50:53 -0600
From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
>
> When my daughter heated her house with wood while living on a University
> of California Research Preserve she used mostly Doug Fir. mcneely
> This winter my house is being heated with red oak, pin oak, cherry, sugar
> maple and a variety of others mixed in. The heat pump doesn't come on for
> weeks at a time.
>
Jim
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:02:02 -0600
From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > When my daughter heated her house with wood while living on a University
> > of California Research Preserve she used mostly Doug Fir. mcneely
> > This winter my house is being heated with red oak, pin oak, cherry, sugar
> > maple and a variety of others mixed in. The heat pump doesn't come on for
> > weeks at a time.
> >
>
> Jim
A nice mix Jim. When we live in Appalachia (Eastern Kentucky), we burned Scarlet Oak (smells like urine until seasoned, but well seasoned is excellent), Black Oak, White Oak (comparable to the hickories in heat output after seasoning) with some Sugar Maple. Some of this was harvested from our property, taking the "scrub" trees, and some was harvested from the scrap left from clear cuts on federal land. The stove was at one end of the house, with a small fan in the wall between that room and the next. Three loads of wood a day kept that room (family room) heated to around 72 F most of the time, and the bedrooms at the far end of the house at around 64. Though we had a gas furnace, it seldom ran except for times when the temperature was down to 0 F and below.
mcneely
--
David McNeely
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:29:29 -0500
From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
In a message dated 1/3/2014 3:54:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET writes:
I did try that web site and did not find this color, although it mentions
'85 campers.
Thanks for the reply. I would like a member chime in with the code he has
on his van, to make sure.
Zoltan
sounds like a custom paint job Zolt. there was no peachy color used on us
model campers.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 21:31:02 -0500
From: Richard Young <ryoungwpor@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: SonofHibachi
I have a Big Green Egg in the backyard kitchen.
For camping, I have a Weber propane grill or the Coleman grill.
BGE makes a small egg, does anyone have one? I am thinking about getting on=
e for car camping
Rich=20
Portland Me
'91 Westfalia=20
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> w=
rote:
>=20
> I have one, but seldom use it. For searing a piece of meat the SoH works
> fine, the coals being right under the grills. But it's not a real
> multipurpose grill. For smoking and slow-cooking ribs or similar for
> hours over a low heat (like 225F) the SoH doesn't work so good. I tend
> to do more slow cooking and smoking when camping than I do searing. Not
> that I don't like a nice steak properly seared . . .
>=20
> When fires are permitted, I take a little Old Smokey #14 charcoal grill
> for smoking and slow-cooking
> <http://www.oldsmokey.com/pages/old-smokey-charcoal-grills>; and a
> little charcoal grill for searing.
>=20
> When fires are not permitted, I have a little propane grill that does a
> pretty good job at both. Well, no, it doesn't get hot enough for proper
> searing, but it works okay. When adjusted to low heat, and a water pan
> under the meat to provide indirect heat, a foil packet of wood over the
> burners, it does a decent job of smoking.
>=20
> My $0.02 for the portable outdoor grill discussion.
>=20
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>=20
>> On 01/03/2014 03:18 PM, Fuhrel, Robert wrote:
>> I recently brought one from Las Vegas, where I had it for years, to Flori=
da. It is bulky, slow to cool, quick to fire up, (as other posters have not=
ed), fun to tell people about because of the name, and the grill plates even=
tually deteriorate. I used it many times out west when the park's pavilions=
or built-in grills were reserved or already in use. Once, on a Mother's Da=
y outing to southern Utah, when the engine on our '83 Westy blew out in the V=
irgin River Gorge and we had to be towed into St. George and had to camp in t=
he parking lot of a Chevron station, in the rain, the SonofHibachi performed=
like a champ. Our many Hawai'ian friends in Las Vegas never believed I had=
such a thing until I brought it to the horseshoe pits. I am so glad I neve=
r sold it but brought it to Florida instead. Get 'em while you can!
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Best,
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Bob
>>=20
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:15:38 -0800
From: thewestyman <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I know it's not peachy color really. But it's not the white one or the
yellowish ivory color. One other van has a code of LA1N, but it's not
really the same. Many shades off.
And it is still the original paint on the car. I just would like to have it
close.
Well, I guess, I would just have them make up something similar to match.
Zoltan
-----Original Message-----
From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 4:29 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
In a message dated 1/3/2014 3:54:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET writes:
I did try that web site and did not find this color, although it mentions
'85 campers.
Thanks for the reply. I would like a member chime in with the code he has
on his van, to make sure.
Zoltan
sounds like a custom paint job Zolt. there was no peachy color used on us
model campers.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 22:30:50 -0500
From: Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
you might want to check:
http://cabby-info.com/OldBlue/images/VanagonModels.pdf
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:15 PM, thewestyman <zolo@foxinternet.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> Yes, I know it's not peachy color really. But it's not the white one or
> the
> yellowish ivory color. One other van has a code of LA1N, but it's not
> really the same. Many shades off.
> And it is still the original paint on the car. I just would like to have
> it
> close.
> Well, I guess, I would just have them make up something similar to match.
> Zoltan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 4:29 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
>
> In a message dated 1/3/2014 3:54:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET writes:
>
> I did try that web site and did not find this color, although it mentions
> '85 campers.
> Thanks for the reply. I would like a member chime in with the code he has
> on his van, to make sure.
> Zoltan
>
>
>
>
>
> sounds like a custom paint job Zolt. there was no peachy color used on us
> model campers.
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:33:45 -0800
From: mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
Here, this is possibly the color code and some places that sell it.
Volkswagen-Audi paint color - LL1M
http://www.amazon.com/Volkswagen-Van-Automotive-Touch-Up-Paint/dp/images/B00DAZ6DLC
http://www.expresspaint.com/automotivetouchup/pc/Audi-Volkswagen-Beige-18p10819.htm
Mark
thewestyman wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> Yes, I know it's not peachy color really. But it's not the white one or
> the
> yellowish ivory color. One other van has a code of LA1N, but it's not
> really the same. Many shades off.
> And it is still the original paint on the car. I just would like to
> have it
> close.
> Well, I guess, I would just have them make up something similar to match.
> Zoltan
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 22:06:13 -0600
From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
North of the Panhandle of Alaska in the Mountain ranges along Prince
William Sound - you find mostly spruce and Hemlock, maybe some fir..On
the north and north east side of the range(Chugach Mountains) that
changes to mostly Spruce and Birch - Birch being the only hardwood
around. Usually there are some beetle kill areas you can collect from.
If not - then it's bring our own - be it wood or briquets. Birch,
Spruce, Cottonwood - best fire order. There may be some larch - but
after the larch almost everything is really small.
John
On 1/3/2014 5:46 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> Pinyon, of whatever species, is excellent firewood, and great for cooking. Pinyon is common through much of the West and is sold as firewood wherever it occurs, though not in the NW. In fact, it has gained such a reputation as good firewood that it is marketed well east of its natural range for the purpose. Beetle killed lodge pole pine is also very good firewood, a fact I learned on a trip to Glacier National Park a couple of years ago. I was burning for my campfire fire killed wood in a section of the park where wood collecting was allowed. I did a favor for a fellow camper, and in return he supplied me with beetle killed lodge pole that he'd brought from his property a few miles away. In much of the West Coast area Douglas Fir is preferred over other conifers for firewood. When my daughter heated her house with wood while living on a University of California Research Preserve she used mostly Doug Fir. mcneely
>
> ---- Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here in Central Oregon, even when it's not fire season when all open and
>> charcoal fires (anything that has hot coals) are banned, finding
>> hardwood to burn -- less smoky, more btus per stick, better-tasting food
>> -- is essentially impossible as the predominant trees in the forests
>> here are conifers. I have not camped in all the public lands in the
>> western U.S., but I believe that this is generally true throughout the
>> region.
>>
>> --
>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>> Bend, Ore.
>>
>> On 01/03/2014 09:36 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>>> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> RE burning wood...The point is, wood actually is a
>>>> plentiful and useful fuel and it is a wonder that more stove systems do not
>>>> use it.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wood is not always a plentiful fuel. There are restrictions on gathering wood on a good deal of public land. If one relied on locally gathered wood in a large portion of Big Bend National Park, one would have to eat cold food. The same is true in many other national parks. Fire bans are common as well, but often allow liquid or gas fuel in appliances made for them.
>>>
>>> Despite the claims of manufacturers of wood burning appliances, wood is not pollution free fuel.
>>>
>>> Buying fuel from vendors is also problematic. It often comes from distant locations, resulting in transport of insect and disease pests into new areas. I once bought some bundled firewood at a California State Park, only to discover when I got to my camp with it that it had a tag on it showing that it originated in British Columbia.
>>>
>>> I do burn wood when in locations where it is available. Generally I use a fire ring and burn it in the open, but I have used some container type stoves as well. When wood is available and there are no environmental or agricultural reasons not to burn it, I do like to have a fire. And I like occasionally to cook a steak over wood coals.
>>>
>>> McNeely
>>>
>
> --
> David McNeely
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:50:10 -0800
From: Scott Daniel Foss <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Peach clolor van's code?
Zoltan, did you look around the van for the paint code ?
I have been able to find it on all my vans so far..
either above the clutch pedal on a white tag, to read upside down ..
or sometimes under the driver's seat.
Scott
On 1/3/2014 7:33 PM, mark drillock wrote:
> Here, this is possibly the color code and some places that sell it.
>
> Volkswagen-Audi paint color - LL1M
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Volkswagen-Van-Automotive-Touch-Up-Paint/dp/images/B00DAZ6DLC
>
>
> http://www.expresspaint.com/automotivetouchup/pc/Audi-Volkswagen-Beige-18p10819.htm
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> thewestyman wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply.
>> Yes, I know it's not peachy color really. But it's not the white one or
>> the
>> yellowish ivory color. One other van has a code of LA1N, but it's not
>> really the same. Many shades off.
>> And it is still the original paint on the car. I just would like to
>> have it
>> close.
>> Well, I guess, I would just have them make up something similar to
>> match.
>> Zoltan
>>
>>
>>
>
--
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