Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 2014 11:37:08 -0500
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Subject:      Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
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 I burn wood scraps in the BioLite for the most part.   With a contractor
friend and plenty of free time to cut stuff up into the appropriate size
pieces, we usually have plenty.  The stove, grill and about enough wood to
last a weekend fits into a backpack.  If I think that we'll need to bring
more I fill a Costco cat litter plastic container up.

   And if I feel like burning money, three are always those bags of hickory
chunks from Kroger.

Geo/ATL



On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:

> North of the Panhandle of Alaska in the Mountain ranges along Prince
> William Sound - you find mostly spruce and Hemlock, maybe some fir..On
> the north and north east side of the range(Chugach Mountains) that
> changes to mostly Spruce and Birch - Birch being the only hardwood
> around. Usually there are some beetle kill areas you can collect from.
> If not - then it's bring our own - be it wood or briquets. Birch,
> Spruce, Cottonwood - best fire order. There may be some larch - but
> after the larch almost everything is really small.
>
> John
>
>
> On 1/3/2014 5:46 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>
>> Pinyon, of whatever species, is excellent firewood, and great for
>> cooking.  Pinyon is common through much of the West and is sold as firewood
>> wherever it occurs, though not in the NW.  In fact, it has gained such a
>> reputation as good firewood that it is marketed well east of its natural
>> range for the purpose.  Beetle killed lodge pole pine is also very good
>> firewood, a fact I learned on a trip to Glacier National Park a couple of
>> years ago.  I was burning for my campfire fire killed wood in a section of
>> the park where wood collecting was allowed.  I did a favor for a fellow
>> camper, and in return he supplied me with beetle killed lodge pole that
>> he'd brought from his property a few miles away.  In much of the West Coast
>> area Douglas Fir is preferred over other conifers for firewood.  When my
>> daughter heated her house with wood while living on a University of
>> California Research Preserve she used mostly Doug Fir.  mcneely
>>
>> ---- Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here in Central Oregon, even when it's not fire season when all open and
>>> charcoal fires (anything that has hot coals) are banned, finding
>>> hardwood to burn -- less smoky, more btus per stick, better-tasting food
>>> -- is essentially impossible as the predominant trees in the forests
>>> here are conifers. I have not camped in all the public lands in the
>>> western U.S., but I believe that this is generally true throughout the
>>> region.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>>> Bend, Ore.
>>>
>>> On 01/03/2014 09:36 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>>>
>>>> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RE burning wood...The point is, wood actually is a
>>>>> plentiful and useful fuel and it is a wonder that more stove systems
>>>>> do not
>>>>> use it.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Wood is not always a plentiful fuel.  There are restrictions on
>>>> gathering wood on a good deal of public land.  If one relied on locally
>>>> gathered wood in a large portion of Big Bend National Park, one would have
>>>> to eat cold food.  The same is true in many other national parks.  Fire
>>>> bans are common as well, but often allow liquid or gas fuel in appliances
>>>> made for them.
>>>>
>>>> Despite the claims of manufacturers of wood burning appliances, wood is
>>>> not pollution free fuel.
>>>>
>>>> Buying fuel from vendors is also problematic.  It often comes from
>>>> distant locations, resulting in transport of insect and disease pests into
>>>> new areas.  I once bought some bundled firewood at a California State Park,
>>>> only to discover when I got to my camp with it that it had a tag on it
>>>> showing that it originated in British Columbia.
>>>>
>>>> I do burn wood when in locations where it is available.  Generally I
>>>> use a fire ring and burn it in the open, but I have used some container
>>>> type stoves as well.  When wood is available and there are no environmental
>>>> or agricultural reasons not to burn it, I do like to have a fire.  And I
>>>> like occasionally to cook a steak over wood coals.
>>>>
>>>> McNeely
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>>