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Date:         Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:13:19 -0600
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
Comments: To: Tom Buese <tantonbz@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CANMEa3gnjqtiH3xH3ykgepYajUkpnPHgGArV+JtE16JXWGRYGg@mail.gmail.com>
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RE burning wood... a few years back when my wife and I were backpacking a lot, we quit carrying a stove altogether and just made a fire of twigs for something quick and hot and made a real fire at night, with plenty of breakfast coals in the morning. She has baked cakes in our titanium cookware in the middle of nowhere. The point is, wood actually is a plentiful and useful fuel and it is a wonder that more stove systems do not use it. A tube of that firestarter stuff would do the trick worst case, and usually just a wad of newspaper would work to start it.

Several people have asked me to try wood in my cobb. When it gets above freezing, I promise to do just that. But looking at the links that Alistair and others have brought into the stove discussion, I see that when wood is involved, a fan seems to be involved as well. Why is this? Maybe because the point of these stoves is to boil water as quickly as possible, or to allow the use of marginally dry fuel. I don't know, I have never used anything but a woodfire on the ground in a rock ring.

If the problem is draw, wouldn't a chimney solve that? If a blower is necessary, could the fire itself be used to power it? I hate the thought of trying to maintain a sterling engine as part of my daily westy chores!

Any thoughts on whether the fan is neccessary for normal cooking, and if so, what are some better ways of powering it? Bellows? Falling weight? Clockspring? Flywheel and pull cord? Air from the spare or from a 12v pump?

Jim

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Tom Buese <tantonbz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mucho elegante! > > & the price is reasonable. > > Thanks for the link! > > Mr. BZ > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:01 PM, george jannini <georgejoann@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Fire 101, Biolite stove. Available grille & kettle. When it isn't > > being carted around in our Westy, It's out on the balcony at Chez > Chalmette > > providing ambiance. It's just cool - um, hot. > > > > http://www.biolitestove.com/campstove/new-portable-grill/grill-features/ > > > > Geo/ATL > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > Wow, I've had a Pyromid for years, but have stopped using it because I > > > didn't want to fold my own foil liners. It works well for two, so now > > that > > > I can get them again I'll start using it. I have all the accessories, > > > including the folding vertical chicken holder. It packs up small and > you > > > don't need to bring a whole bag of charcoal for a weekend trip. > > > > > > Brings back memories . . . > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf > > Of > > > Alistair Bell > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 1:27 PM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq) > > > > > > Santa dropped off an Ecoque charcoal grill. If you remember the Pyromid > > > grill you'll see it is pretty well the same deal but now made by > another > > > company. > > > > > > Anyway, it is a compact grill for use on vanagon camping trips. > > > > > > http://shufti.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/ecoque-portable-grill/ > > > > > > > > > alistair= > > > > > > > > > -- > Tom Buese >


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