Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:33:04 -0600
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From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: About VW Electrical Terminals and Connectors
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Drew,
Wow! Very cool documentation! Thanks for posting!
I have a local supplier where I can get much of this hardware. but I
have trouble telling them just what I want sometimes. This makes it
possible for me to give them a picture and some reference numbers.
John
On 1/25/2014 11:40 AM, Derek Drew wrote:
> This is a cross post of something I just put onto Samba after
> somebody was posting about terminals.
>
> The posts I made were about the VW terminals, my favorite VW terminal
> crimpers from Wurth (055810 or tool number 055813) , and about
> terminals in general,
> here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=410934&start=380
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> The mother of all Terminal pages (for us) to consult is Richard
> Atwell's, and as of right now, the page is here:
> http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Terminals.html Hopefully it will
> still be there a good 20 years from now when you are reading
> this. What he says, and what I have found to be sometimes true, is
> that the best place to buy some of the VW terminals is at Digikey and
> its brothers and sisters (Newark, Mouser, etc.) that sell Tyco parts
> (the manufacturer of many of the terminals). You can also find many
> of the terminals at Wurth and my guess is that Wurth may be better at
> doing smaller orders and also many terminals that are not available
> on Digikey or the big sites. Atwell identifies some of the terminals
> that require many hundreds of terminals / connectors as a minimum
> order, and for those especially, I would try the Wurth connectors.
>
> What is frustrating is that the Wurth connectors are not easily
> indexed to the VW part numbers, and VW was not always that great
> about identifying the part numbers of its connectors in the first place.
>
> In any case, the Wurth connector catalog is really great, but for
> some reason, it took me years to figure out how to find some of the
> terminals on there. So as a convenience to you, I am reproducing in
> this email/post a lot of the terminal information that I have so it
> is in one place.
>
> You can see a sample of what the Wurth pages looks like below, but
> that is only one screen shot to give you an idea what the page looks
> like. You would want to load the actual DOC document to show the
> connectors because the document is about 10 pages long. Moreover, you
> will want to be able to select just the part numbers if you are going
> to try to order anything from Wurth, and the part numbers will only
> copy and paste out of text, not the image below. I am not exactly
> shure how to force Wurth to show you the terminals with the clarity
> that they are reproduced with in this file.
>
> I have put the document online in a Google Drive folder where you can
> grab it. To get the document, you might have to be logged in to
> Google with a google account, or maybe you don't, I don't really
> know. You might also have to be using Google's Chrome web
> browser. If you are reading this, really, you should have a Google
> account anyway. I tested it and it seems that you can load the
> document from here regardless of how you load it:
> https://googledrive.com/host/0B8sxgRMrur9XM2tCRDJUZDVZcUU/About_VW_Electrical_Terminals.doc
>
> If that doesn't work very well, maybe you could get somewhere with
> this link:
> https://drive.google.com/a/derekmail.com/?tab=Xo#folders/0B8sxgRMrur9XM2tCRDJUZDVZcUU
>
> which includes a few other unrelated files.
>
> You can make guesses at the VW part numbers by looking at the VW
> electrical parts microfiche or in ETKA (EKTA) if you go to the
> electrical parts section. Unfortunately, VW has chosen to
> discontinue many of the connectors themselves and instead these days
> sells most of them only as connected to *wire*! That makes them
> prohibitively expensive to buy from VW. There is also a Tech Talk
> (Tek Talk?) and VW Service Circular issued in about 1989 or so to the
> dealers about the terminals that would be interesting for me to post
> someday.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Derek Drew
> Washington DC / New York
> derekdrew@derekmail.com
> Email is best normally but...
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