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Date:         Sat, 1 Feb 2014 17:03:59 -0600
Reply-To:     Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From:         Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject:      Re: No Clutch
Comments: To: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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A new clutch master cylinder does not over power & cause a slave cylinder to fail, it exposes a failing slave cylinder. Your master cylinder was probably bypassing fluid long before it finally failed and this was hiding the failing slave cylinder. Corrosion is what causes hydraulic clutch failure and since both were installed at the factory together both are exposed to the same corrosion causing water contaminated brake fluid.

You should change your brake / clutch fluid every 2 years and if the fluid in your reservoir is dark it's already too late because corrosion has already started. You should still change the fluid out every 2 years to delay the inevitable.

Also brake fluid is hygroscopic, it absorbs moisture from the air, this is why the brake fluid companies tell you to fill from a clean unopened can. A

can of brake fluid that's been sitting on your shelf opened for 2 years is no better than the 2 year old brake fluid in your system. DOT4 is far less hygroscopic than DOT3 which makes DOT4 a much better brake fluid than DOT3.

Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com www.stir-plate.com www.towercooler.com www.grow-sun.com www.raspberryproject.com

Did you try to call & I did not answer? I apologize but I never answer numbers I don’t recognize because I’m tired of sales people trying to sell me life insurance, health insurance, Obama insurance, merchant services, very expensive money and the latest, greatest “guaranteed to make millions” investment.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of Richard Koerner Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 4:46 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: No Clutch

Tom, the symptoms you describe sound like what happened to me; turned out it was a failed clutch slave cylinder.  If you pull the rubber boot back and

it's full of fluid, there's your problem.  Was for me anyway.  No drips or other evidence of leak.  "They" say that sometimes a "newer" clutch master cylinder will overpower and cause the slave cylinder to fail.  Worn out.

Rich San Diego

________________________________ From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 2:37 PM Subject: Re: No Clutch

The fluid went somewhere. Look under the floor mat! Did that last winter in

Fun Bus. No the floor paint is the peel off type. In that case the hose from the reservoir to the clutch cylinder failed. How that hose got close enough

to the clutch pedal arm to wear thought is beyond me. Anyway, filling and pumping won't make it work again. You will have to bleed it.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Tom Buese Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:28 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: No Clutch

Came home from BBB 18 after 18 days away & the Syncro Doka started right up, but the clutch pedal went right to the floor even after topping off the brake fluid reservoir. Pumped & pumped & pumped, but no increase in pedal resistance. no sign of leaking @ clutch master or slave cylinders, & all worked well before leaving. Any hints?

-- Tom Buese

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