Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:49:32 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem
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That's a VeryExcellentPoint MrBell ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 25 Feb , 2014, at 11:09 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
> I've never been clear about what the heck an anti drain back valve does on an oil filter that is pointing more or less down as it does on the wbx.
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> Maybe it is an anti suck up valve?
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> Alistair
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>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
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>> The filter will work with any oil. The filter has an anti drain back valve. So do a lot of other quality filters, and some that are not so good, at least I hear that they are not so good. Given the good marks given to both Mann and Meyle oil filters by a lot of people who know more than I do, and their availability and price from the online Vanagon parts vendors, I use them. mcneely
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>> ---- Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>> My van sits a long time between starts. How would this filter help and would it work with mobile 1 Synthetic?
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>
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>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Having a Mann oil filter will help prevent this.
>>>>
>>>> John
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>>>>> On 2/25/2014 2:28 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:
>>>>> This is turning into a real nightmare. I reinstalled the AFM; now it
>>>>> starts fine, but the engine makes a loud clattering! It's done this
>>>>> occasionally over the years, but always went away pretty quickly. Now it
>>>>> won't stop. I've gone over it with a stethoscope and it seems to be
>>>>> loudest at the driver's side of the intake air distributor, but it's hard
>>>>> to pinpoint. I disconnected the fuel injector plugs and cranked the engine
>>>>> to see if something was bouncing around in a cylinder, but heard nothing.
>>>>> Can all this be related? It all started off with a shorted oil pressure
>>>>> sensor wire.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Intermittent problems are often elusive. Will it start reliably with the
>>>>>> AFM
>>>>>> disconnected? If yes then you do have a mixture control issue and the
>>>>>> sensor
>>>>>> being disconnected is helping get past it. I would look for massive vacuum
>>>>>> leaks and wiring issues. Except for the O2 sensor which is a "consumable",
>>>>>> it is very rare for any of the other sensors to go bad. Again, the
>>>>>> connectors and wiring is more often the real problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Steven Shelton
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:12 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant that the engine turns over and over but it will not start/run. I
>>>>>> checked the intake air sensor (Bentley 1999 edition pg 24.28):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2-3 556
>>>>>> 6-9 557
>>>>>> 6-22 2697@18 degrees C
>>>>>> 2-3 and 7-9: ohms change as I moved the sensor plate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a definitive test or could there still be something wrong with
>>>>>> intake air sensor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Haynes
>>>>>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cranking and starting are two completely different issues. The starter
>>>>>>> will crank (turn)the engine over if you removed the complete fuel
>>>>>>> delivery system and put it out to the garbage.
>>>>>>> Check the wiring on the back of the starter. The solenoid trigger wire
>>>>>>> may be loose and you're working near there is making or breaking that
>>>>>>> connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Steven Shelton
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:18 PM
>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, as I said above, the engine would not crank at all, even after
>>>>>>> returning to it using a charged battery the next day. As soon as i
>>>>>>> removed the AFM, even with the #1 spark plug removed, the engine
>>>>>>> cranked right up.
>>>>>>> I checked the ECU connector, with the following results:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2-7 3213 ohms@16 degrees C
>>>>>>> at this temperature the reading should be 3000 ohm to 3500 ohm.
>>>>>>> I also checked at the temp 2 sensor, it was 3178 ohm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other readings were:
>>>>>>> 1-7 10.64 V
>>>>>>> 5-7 infinity
>>>>>>> 6-19 558 ohm
>>>>>>> 7-25 0 ohm
>>>>>>> 11-7 14.9 ohm
>>>>>>> 12-7 15.1
>>>>>>> 14-6 3154 ohm
>>>>>>> 15-19 555 ohm at rest, it moved up when I moved the plate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this mean conclusively that the temp 2 sensor is OK? Any
>>>>>>> suggestions on what to try next?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
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