Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 17:08:01 -0800
Reply-To: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter Motor Internal + Strap Replace?
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yes for sure. Thanks!
I have some nice "silver" for the job.
On 3/4/14, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ordinary solder may melt at the temperatures sometimes produced in abused
> starters. Brazing would be better if you can do it, or maybe silver
> solder.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Larry.
>>
>> Pretty sure the post I saw was in reference to a Vanagon starter.
>> Possibly off a diesel. The starter I pulled was the WBX in my '88
>> Vanagon. I should note that I know now to measure the brush from
>> braided wire to face at commutator.
>>
>> Good idea. Or maybe solder a new braided copper wire to existing below
>> grommet? I can make a new eyelet out of copper or brass and can braze
>> the new braided copper wire to that. The existing braided wire is
>> bonded quite securely to the grommet however.
>>
>> The commutator is scratched but the close up shot may be amplifying
>> the scratches. I may take things apart further and clean up the
>> commutator and inspect the brushes but this is my first time inside a
>> starter motor.
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>> On 3/4/14, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Neil,
>> > Was the post you saw about a wbx starter? The starter in the photos
>> > seems to be a different type, from your I-4 maybe?
>> > If you extract what remains of the copper cable from what appears to be
>> > a
>> > grommet(?), you might be able to clamp and solder or braze it into a
>> piece
>> > of copper pipe and flatten the other end and drill it to fit on the
>> > stud.
>> > Or maybe use a copper terminal like those used on welding cables.
>> > On the wbx starters those cables are made of such fine strands that
>> they
>> > can corrode away to dust. After it happened to me, I started applying
>> very
>> > heavy grease for protection. On my wbx starter I took it to a
>> > rebuilder
>> > and they had to replace the whole field coil because of the way the
>> > cable
>> > had been welded to it.
>> >
>> > Is the commutator as grooved as it appears in the photo or is it just
>> > discoloration?
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Neil n
>>
>> Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca
>>
>> '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p
>>
>> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>
>> Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej
>>
>
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Neil n
Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca
'88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p
'81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:
http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej
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