Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:08:42 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ultimate engine conversion?
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Except for the opposed cylinder layout the Subaru engines share nothing with
the water boxer. The Subaru engines are "Parent Bore" cases and use
conventional head gaskets like most engines used in cars. I don't know that
there was ever a connection.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Marc Perdue
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:18 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Ultimate engine conversion?
Oh, let me rephrase that . . . Not intended to create a next-gen Transporter
engine, but could have been used for that. I guess it was intended to be a
Subaru engine, and VW sold the rights to it to Subaru, right?
Who remembers this?
Marc
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Marc Perdue <mcperdue@gmail.com> wrote:
> I may be confused, but wasn't the Subaru design a VW/Subaru
> collaboration that was intended to create a next-gen Transporter
> engine? If I'm remembering that correctly, that means nobody got it
> right the first time, VW got it right the 2nd time, and Subaru messed
> it up their first actual time, i.e., when they designed the 2.5.
>
> I guess it doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things . . .
> Marc P.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Stuart MacMillan
<stuartmacm@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Interesting. So, of the three production water cooled boxers only
>> Subaru got it right the first time? But maybe not the on the later
>> engines, I see that some later model Subaru 2.5's also have head
>> gasket problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Hanson [mailto:dhanson928@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:05 AM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Ultimate engine conversion?
>>
>>
>>
>> The 993 Porsche motor suffered from the same design flaws as the WBX
>> motors, only Porsche realized they had a problem after just a few yrs
>> of selling these. They quickly brought in the 996 motor that was
>> properly engineered for holding the water inside and to not need
>> frequent expensive rebuilds.
>> The 993s I raced with were unlikely to last one race weekend... Most
>> who brought them to the track brought along spare motors and a crew
>> to swap them quickly when they blew.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2014 8:44 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of Porsche, how about one of making yourself one of these
>> (technically VW too):
>>
>> http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-forum/724550-ladies-and-gen
>> tlemen-
>> <
>> http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-forum/724550-ladies-and-gen
>> tlemen
>> -the-993-vanagon.html<http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-forum
>> /724550-ladies-and-gentlemen-the-993-vanagon.html>
>> >
>> the-993-vanagon.html Be sure to check out the video of them on the
track.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder what transmission they are using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
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