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Date:         Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:35:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem
Comments: To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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Even in a worn out Waterboxer, 20w-50 should not be used in cold weather. Synthetics give a bit more leeway but as you near the teens many destructive things can happen with too heavy an oil. For the winter I even go down to the 0w-40 European formulae for my daily drivers. If I have to drive Fun Bus to work on a cold day with the Mobil 1 15w-50 I let it warm up a bit and drive extremely gently until I see the oil pressure drop a bit on the gauge.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of OlRivrRat Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:12 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem

On 26 Feb , 2014, at 12:05 AM, phishman068@gmail.com wrote:

> Just do it. > Run the right stuff.

There ShouldBe NoQuestion that that is the CorrectPhilosophy ~ The Question is ~ Just What Is TheRightStuff ~

Some believe that 20w50 is a Must in an H2OBoxer & ThatJustAintNecessarilySo ~ Even the OilCharts in the 30YrOld

OwnersManuals attest to that ~ Even if the Condition of your Eng' does require that 50Weight is needed the 20W may

not be & may actually be doing MoreHarmThanGood on "ColdStarts" when Most of the ReallyDestructineWear occurs ~

I have only had 3 VWVans, a 76, an 83.5 & a 90 & I have never run anything Heavier that 10W40 in any of them

& only 5W40 in the 2 H2OBoxers ~ I lost track of the 76 back in the 80s but the 83.5 still Purrs & the 90 was recently

put into another Vanagon, after sitting for 4Yrs, & did a CrossCountry trip to Pennsylvania, where it now lives, without

any issues ~ Also, the only time I used Mann filters was when the 83.5 was still under warranty, otherwise it has been

Fram or Wix/NAPAGold ~

ORR ~ DeanB


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