Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 19:57:14 -0500
Reply-To: Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter Motor Internal + Strap Replace?
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Ordinary solder may melt at the temperatures sometimes produced in abused
starters. Brazing would be better if you can do it, or maybe silver solder.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Larry.
>
> Pretty sure the post I saw was in reference to a Vanagon starter.
> Possibly off a diesel. The starter I pulled was the WBX in my '88
> Vanagon. I should note that I know now to measure the brush from
> braided wire to face at commutator.
>
> Good idea. Or maybe solder a new braided copper wire to existing below
> grommet? I can make a new eyelet out of copper or brass and can braze
> the new braided copper wire to that. The existing braided wire is
> bonded quite securely to the grommet however.
>
> The commutator is scratched but the close up shot may be amplifying
> the scratches. I may take things apart further and clean up the
> commutator and inspect the brushes but this is my first time inside a
> starter motor.
>
> Neil.
>
> On 3/4/14, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Neil,
> > Was the post you saw about a wbx starter? The starter in the photos
> > seems to be a different type, from your I-4 maybe?
> > If you extract what remains of the copper cable from what appears to be a
> > grommet(?), you might be able to clamp and solder or braze it into a
> piece
> > of copper pipe and flatten the other end and drill it to fit on the stud.
> > Or maybe use a copper terminal like those used on welding cables.
> > On the wbx starters those cables are made of such fine strands that
> they
> > can corrode away to dust. After it happened to me, I started applying
> very
> > heavy grease for protection. On my wbx starter I took it to a rebuilder
> > and they had to replace the whole field coil because of the way the cable
> > had been welded to it.
> >
> > Is the commutator as grooved as it appears in the photo or is it just
> > discoloration?
> >
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca
>
> '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p
>
> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej
>
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