Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 23:17:01 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters
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You are so correct! Complexity and additional points of failure.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Don Hanson
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 10:58 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters
An important fact to keep in mind: When one adds an improvement of any
kind such as aftermarket coolers, gauges, etc. you must be aware that
while you are aiming for greater reliability you are also adding complexity
to your vehicle... so very careful thinking and execution is called for.
As Mark.mentions, problems are often caused by so called improvements that
are poorly done.
On Mar 1, 2014 7:35 PM, "mark drillock" <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> I think the biggest improvement was making the oil warning led a
> blinking warning to better get the driver's attention. The second oil
> switch I agree is of debatable value except it allowed for a loud
> warning buzzer to be added to really get the driver's attention while
> driving. I might be happier with just a 1 switch setup if it was
> combined with a buzzer that triggered whenever the warning light came
> on while the engine was running. An oil pressure gauge is not a viable
> substitute for a warning light but does its uses as an additional item
> though I know of many people who added one only to have IT be the
> source of trouble.
>
> Mark
>
> Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>
>> Interesting. But what's that good for other than causing anxiety?
>> Without a
>> gauge to monitor pressure under various conditions it's completely
>> useless IMHO.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mark drillock [mailto:mdrillock@cox.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 4:36 PM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem
>>
>> This supposed correlation of the new dynamic oil warning system with
>> some weakness in the 2.1 ignores the fact that VW began fitting the
>> more complex dual oil switch system to all their vehicles in roughly
>> the same time frame. The major makeover to the electrical system
>> beginning in 86 Vanagons was merely a convenient point in time to
>> also add the same modernized oil warning system that many of their
>> other cars got the year before.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>>
>>> .....
>>> If you want to really know what's going on with your engine and
>>> bearings, install an oil pressure guage. Ignorance is not bliss
>>> with waterboxers, especially with the 2.1s! VW knew this, and
>>> that's why they installed two pressure sensing systems. .....
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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