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Date:         Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:56:33 -0700
Reply-To:     "SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject:      Re: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and Men.....
Comments: To: Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <532a5205.22ee440a.3820.2027@mx.google.com>
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I just ended up with some 225/55 R 16 tires... like jetta studless winter tires... Very common size.

for road and street use ..they look pretty good on a Syncro Doka. 16 inch genuine VW/Audi steelies.

( now that I think of it...it's For Sale ...1.9 AAZ TD very tight engine....$ 15,800 , located southern Oregon )

it's not prefect..runs well, and is a real Synco Doka. Needs some things..starts and runs great.

On 3/19/2014 7:27 PM, Jeff Schwaia wrote: > There is a middle ground between highways and rough rocky roads... > > Perhaps fire roads or graded roads? Also, snow? > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Alistair Bell > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:16 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and Men..... > > For a syncro that is actually used on anything but highways I think it is > folly to use 55 profile tires. You need sidewall depth to reduce the chance > of rim damage when you use your syncro on rough rocky roads. > > Alistair > > > >> On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > wrote: >> Again, >> If going for the expense of new heels, I would go right for 16 or if >> handling real important 17 inch wheels. Many more handling and >> performance tire choices including XL versions. To get more rubber on >> the road you need to wider and to get a better footprint you need to >> go softer. The 225/60-16 is amongst my favorite compromises. Due to >> ready availability of the AR95T wheel I have been installing some >> 225/55-17XL tires. Awesome handling. For Syncros I have also used the > 235/55-17XL. >> Dennis >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of Jack R >> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:00 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and Men..... >> >> I'm running the Heavy Duty Bilstenis on my 84 Westy. With the Yoko >> 185/14's "D". >> Ride is not good, cross winds are still a big issue. Camber is off >> slightly, negative. >> >> Everything is solid, shocks have less than 10k miles on them. >> >> So, are you saying the 15" GW tires would be the best for my rig? >> >> Thanks for the guidance on the Tirerack "Passenger" tires! >> >> Jack R. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss ) >> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:18 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and Men..... >> >> what shocks do you run ? >> very significant factor. >> I never thought Heavy Duty Bilstenis were 'magic' ( like they can be ) >> on a vanagon until I ran them with 15 inch wheels...then they got more > magic. >> I don't think 14's can work very well on vanagons, in general. >> my fav size is 27 X 8.50 R14 LT. >> a guy owes me a full set of four .. >> my good vans run 15's with dedicated front and rear sizes. ( 2WD of >> course ). >> >> I make do with stock springs , though I've had to juggle things around >> here and there. >> >> >>> On 3/18/2014 5:49 PM, Ralph Meyermann wrote: >>> My stock westy springs with the 185/75/14 D tires were very harsh on >>> pot holes, smooth hwy ran nicely. So far with the 1.5" lift >>> progressive springs and LT 215/75/15 bfg all terrain KO are a huge >>> improvement. Making the 14's seem like solid rubber. We'll see more >> further down the road. >>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ TD Westy >>> On Mar 18, 2014 7:37 PM, "SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss )" < >>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ditto .. >>>> all the 14 inch tires I have seen with either C or D load rating >>>> have had max cold pressures of 55 or 65 psi..repsectively. >>>> >>>> I don't think you are in 'real danger' actually. >>>> >>>> and it would really be neat if list members could drive various >>>> vanagons with various tires on them, to feel the difference.. >>>> and The Difference in how vanagons ride and handle can be VAST. >>>> >>>> Members who own and operate a couple or more vanagons have an idea >>>> wut ah'm talkin' 'bout. >>>> >>>> Some vanagons are desperately understeering pigs. >>>> Some ride way too harshly in the front due to D load tires there. >>>> some 'change direction on pumps' way too easily due not having >>>> proper front-rear tire pressure ratios, and so on. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/18/2014 4:22 PM, Jeff Schwaia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Those tires are not for a Vanagon. >>>>> >>>>> Passenger tire, 93 rating for the sidewall. Not safe. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Jack R >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:54 PM >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and > Men..... >>>>> Tires are good for about 10 years... give or take, depending on > storage. >>>>> I'd opt for fresh tires. My current 185/R14 D Yoko's are not very >>>>> smooth on the road, and 7 years old. >>>>> >>>>> Tossup between going to the GW 16" or just replacing the 14" with >>>>> the tires below. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone try these from the Tire Rack... after rebate, seems like a >>>>> great deal. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin& >>>>> tireModel=Defender >>>>> &partnum=07TR4DEF >>>>> >>>>> Load rating should be enough, pressure good to 44 psi. >>>>> >>>>> Jack R. >>>>> 84 Westy >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of JRodgers >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:41 PM >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> Subject: Tires and Wheels - The best laid plans of Mice and Men..... >>>>> >>>>> Well, I've been planning an upgrade to 15 or 16 inch wheels and >>>>> tires for my Carat restoration - but my main priority is getting >>>>> the thing on the road >>>>> - >>>>> not so much having the bigger wheels ad tires - but I was going to >>>>> go for it >>>>> - in part because it's getting to be a hassle to get the 14 inch >>>>> tires in my area without having to ship them in, paying freight in >>>>> addittion the tires, and ultimately having to pay someone $20 or so >>>>> to mount each one. >>>>> >>>>> Well - yesterday I learned I could still get my fav tire - the >>>>> General Altimax RT 98C in a 205-70/R14. So, I opted to get one more >>>>> set and wait until the next round of tires to upgrade to a larger >>>>> size. Given I'm dropping a bundle to get the engine and tranny >>>>> working, plus some other stuff, I ordered the tires. I just picked >>>>> them up. Installed, mounted and balanced -total cost of a set of 5 >>>>> (4 on the road and one spare) included >>>>> - >>>>> taxes and all - $430.00. or $81/ea, I could not beat that with a >>>>> stick anywhere. >>>>> >>>>> Hip! Hip! Huzzah!! Dennis Haynes for putting me onto the General >>>>> Altimax in the first place!! >>>>> >>>>> And one more thing about Dennis! >>>>> >>>>> I have a Dennis Haynes receiver hitch on my '88 GL - and that thing >>>>> makes one heck of a fine jacking point for getting the rear end up >>>>> off the ground with one Jack. >>>>> >>>>> Careful there Dennis - let;s not get the bighead over this. >>>>> >>>>> But seriously - it worked great for that purpose. >>>>> >>>>> Happy Motoring Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>>


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