Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:19:41 -0700
Reply-To: bernie <1234bjs@GMAIL.COM>
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From: bernie <1234bjs@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Dream Syncro - Price: $125,000
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I agree.
For me it's about being on the road, new places and experiences.
If I put 35 thousand into it would I enjoy the road anymore?
I don't think so.
I would rather keep the money in my travel fund.
Bernie
Vancouver
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> Marc, with that I totally agree. I just don't have to spend $150k to get
> there. In fact, NOT having spent a bunch of excess money may enhance the
> joy I gain. Perhaps with me, it is the camping experience, especially with
> family, that matters, not the "quality" or amount of money spent, to get me
> to the camp site. I expect that is the case with you. If I can improve
> the camping experience with reasonable outlay of money, I do that. The
> campsite is more likely to be in the outback than otherwise, as my recent
> trip to Big Bend demonstrates.
>
> mcneely
> .
> ---- Marc Perdue <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > I think Abel makes the single most salient point about the money that we
> > "invest" in our vans; while we don't like spending it, we derive joy and
> > other benefits from every $ spent. If we didn't enjoy it, we wouldn't
> spend
> > the money on it. What motivates other people to spend $$$$$$$ on
> something
> > is irrelevant; they believe they get something for their money spent and
> > that's all that matters. That Syncro is incredible, no doubt. It's not my
> > cup of tea, but there's no denying that somebody put some serious love,
> as
> > well as money, into that van.
> >
> > I've been working on, in some sense, restoring my van. I'm doing some
> > similar things to what was done on that Syncro, but I'm having a hard
> time
> > seeing it all cost $150K, and I hope it doesn't. Still, even if it does,
> we
> > will thoroughly enjoy the time we spend camping with it. And when I hear
> my
> > daughters raving enthusiastically to their friends about the camping
> > adventures we've had with it, it's totally worth it to me. If I ever sell
> > my van, the Return On Investment will be significantly higher than any
> > other vehicle I have ever owned, no matter what I get for it relative to
> > how much I spent to get it there. The value added to my spiritual
> happiness
> > is significant.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > I hope it sells and I hope the buyer loves it...
> > >
> > > I know that with every upgrade I make or improvement I tweak to my van
> that
> > > the chances of me getting some of that money invested back is slim...
> > > but... i do it anyways for the love of ding it an the love of having a
> > > Westy.
> > >
> > > If the market continues to rise on these things then i'll be sure to
> get
> > > more than what i paid for it so i am content with that.. making back
> what i
> > > invested in it is a completely different thing.
> > >
> > > ps. for instance, I spent $1,000 on a mechanic to fix my AC that
> didn't get
> > > fixed back in September and another $1,300 this week to a mechanic that
> > > actually does know what hes doing and he got it fixed completely. I
> won't
> > > be getting that money in return when I sell but I know I'll be riding
> > > comfortably in the Texas heat this summer! yay!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Zeitgeist <gruengeist@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Applying logic to either the build or sale of this van is pure folly.
> > > > Build or buy it if it suits your whims and bulging bank account. I
> don't
> > > > see any reason to wish for the dude *not* to get his money out of the
> > > sale,
> > > > but that's just how I roll.
> > > >
> > > > btw: I found the same textured material used to recover that dash
> down
> > > at
> > > > the local Jo-ann fabric store. I'm pretty sure they had the dash
> vacuum
> > > > formed, which ain't cheap. I particularly like the double DIN
> install,
> > > > incorporated into the dash pad.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Jeff Stewart <
> fonman4277@comcast.net
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > To each his own, remember my comments here about a month ago about
> my
> > > > > former father in law who only bought 4 door Ford sedans in white.
> > > > BORING!!
> > > > > I see nothing wrong with customizing/personalizing a Vanagon or
> Westy.
> > > > > Getting your money back is a different story. This is a "Westy of
> The
> > > > > Stars" i.e. Tom Hanks. The seller will need an all cash buyer as
> no one
> > > > is
> > > > > going loan that much on this vehicle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm a bit confused. Why do so many people hope he gets the money?
> > > From
> > > > > my perspective, putting a ton of money into a vehicle to "upgrade"
> it
> > > is
> > > > > just foolish. Expecting someone else to pay for it is wishful
> > > thinking.
> > > > > Let such folks suffer the consequences of their mistakes, and for
> > > sure,
> > > > > I'm not going to encourage them. Proper maintenance and
> restoration of
> > > > > components needed is another matter. Of course, at some point,
> all our
> > > > > campers are going to be either show vehicles or crushed, as we can
> only
> > > > > take them so far as serviceable vehicles. Too bad. mcneely
> > > > > >
> > > > > >---- "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> > > > > >> I also hopes he gets the money, however, I don't understand
> people
> > > who
> > > > > >> customize a van the way they think it should be done, and then
> try
> > > to
> > > > > sell
> > > > > >> it for a ton of money. Just because they sunk a ton of cash
> into
> > > > > something
> > > > > >> doesn't make it valuable or even a "dream" anything. I think as
> > > time
> > > > > goes
> > > > > >> on, the unmolested Vanagons and Westies are going to be the ones
> > > that
> > > > > are
> > > > > >> the most desirable and these other hybrids, are going to be the
> > > second
> > > > > >> class citizen that people wish they hadn't "pimped out".
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just my opinion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ken Wilford
> > > > > >> John 3:16
> > > > > >> www.vanagain.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Roland <
> syncronicity1@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > The Ultimate Dream Syncro ground up restoration Price:
> $125,000
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Not mine.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1617562
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Well, I just had to write since this is the highest asking
> price I
> > > > > have
> > > > > >> > ever seen. I am sure it is very, very nice, and so I can't
> say it
> > > > is
> > > > > >> > overpriced. It is just the highest I've ever seen. Some
> things
> > > are
> > > > > very
> > > > > >> > attractive, such as custom interior panels, and long list of
> > > > > upgrades. But
> > > > > >> > oddly the spare wheel doesn't match the other 4 mounted
> wheels.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Not to discount the incomparable culture, character and love
> for
> > > > > Vangaons,
> > > > > >> > but in this price range I would definitely be comparing to a
> brand
> > > > new
> > > > > >> > Sportsmobile.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Maybe if I add two TVs to my Syncro it will be worth
> $99,999.99?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Roland
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> Ken Wilford
> > > > > >> John 3:16
> > > > > >> www.vanagain.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >David McNeely
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Casey
> > > >
> > >
>
> --
> David McNeely
>
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