Date:         Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:13:31 -0600
Reply-To:     OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From:         OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Starts strong Now No Start HMMM
Comments: To: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
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        I don't see how it would be PhysicallyPossible for a Lifter to OverCharge as they are a SelfContained FixedLength Unit

that can Compress Internally but can only achieve JustOne Max'Length ~ It is conceivable however that @Least 1 Lifter or

1 Valve PerCylinder could be stuck in the OpenPosition ~ Especially in an engine that has been Sitting for a VeryLong period

of time & Especially if the OldOil & OldGas were Not Drained&Replaced before it was Started after Sitting ThatLong ~ I would

make sure it has New Oil&Gas (& would probably use a RelativelyThin Synthetic Oil > 0w30 or 0w40) & add a can of SeaFoam

Or some MarvelMysteryOil >OrBoth< to the Oil & the Gas ~ & then ~ while CrankingIt OnTheStarter for SomeExtendedPeriods

(Being careful not to OverHeat the Starter) I would, Via a VacuumLine, allow a can of SeaFoam to be Ingested Directly into the

IntakeManifold ~ Then CrossMyFingers ~

                                                                                                        ORR ~ DeanB


On 20 Apr , 2014, at 2:07 PM, Jonce Fancher wrote:

> Yes the Motor is Spinning.
> The starter is spinning the motor. But the motor does not bump or anything.
> 
> Did the Lifters Over Charge to make the compression go to "0"
> I have had that happen on a 1.9L Water box. but only with 2
> cylinders. This one acts like all of them.
> 
> Still scratching my dome on this one.
> 
> Jonce
> 
> 
> 
>> Is the engine actually turning or is the starter spinning and not
>> turning the engine ?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > Here is the Poo!
>> >
>> >
>> > 82 Westi with stock motor. 2.0L Air Cooled
>> > Been in storage for 3-5 years.
>> > Had no spark.
>> > Swaped points spark is good.
>> >
>> > Everything is complete and ran when stored.
>> >
>> > Started up with just set of points.
>> > Lots of Noises Valves etc. Etc.
>> >
>> > let run for 30- 40 min. Drove up the drive and back a few times,
>> > Brakes would not allow a long drive.
>> >
>> > Idle and strong power and very little smoke, ALL the noises went
>> > away. Sounded like a winner.
>> >
>> > let sit after stopping the motor to play with the sliding door that
>> > would not let go.
>> > Got the slider to work just fine.
>> >
>> > Decided to start the Vanagon just for fun to hear it purr. (really it
>> > ran absolutely Perfect)
>> >
>> > Motor would turn and acted like No Compression at all no fire just
>> > spin with the starter.
>> >
>> > Acts like No compression and spins free. No Idea. Did the lifters
>> > overcharge and the valves are just floating??
>> >
>> > Very weird.
>> >
>> > Did not look deep. Just spun like no pistons were connected to the crank.
>> >
>> > Any one, Any one Bueller???
>> >
>> > Jonce