Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:33:29 -0400
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From: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
Subject: Re: Starts strong Now No Start HMMM
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Hi Ken and All
It is not an ignition thing. Plenty of spark, Plenty of air and plenty of fuel.
Just spins like the pistons are not attached.
I have had a overcharge on lifters on a 1.9L. What happened with that
one was you would drive it and it would just all of a sudden run on 3
cylinders and then over to 2 cylinders. It lead to a full rebuild and
absolutely everything was perfect and well within tolerance. After
back together it did it again! Someone on the list said try checking
compression and find the cylinder with no compression then adjust the
valve with 0 gap on the rocker arm to the valve. Did it and bingo
bango instant compression.
Also had another issue with the wiring harness that also lead to the
rebuild so it was not just that.
We are letting it sit for a few days Probably this weekend will spin
again and pop a valve cover.
Personally I have never seen the complete lack of any compression we
at 1st thought it was a bad bendix on the starter and it was just
spinning free.
Also we were playing with it. No we did not change the oil OR put new
gas in it. OLD VWs love to run on "Gas Concentrate"
Sorry had to toss that in.
We didn't think it would not run and we were not taking it on the
road or abusing it. My guess is sticky Valves and lifters. We will
get some Fix all Sea Foam and Marvel Mystery Oil to beat it up with
and go from there.
Just wanted to toss this Out there for the powers that be.
Again had nothing to do with ignition or air or Fuel really. Btw the
guys bus ( New to him ) is a Certified Mechanic so nothing scares him
at all but we both stood there looking stupid, Or More Stupid as my Girlz say!!
All in good fun!!
Jonce
>I guess the first thing to do would be to check compression. I have never
>heard of the lifters over pumping before. I have had problems with lifters
>that were not adjusted properly or had push rods that were not seated in
>the lifters. A compression test is pretty easy and quick way to see what
>is going on.
>
>Ken
>
>
>On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@frontier.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Here is the Poo!
> >
> >
> > 82 Westi with stock motor. 2.0L Air Cooled
> > Been in storage for 3-5 years.
> > Had no spark.
> > Swaped points spark is good.
> >
> > Everything is complete and ran when stored.
> >
> > Started up with just set of points.
> > Lots of Noises Valves etc. Etc.
> >
> > let run for 30- 40 min. Drove up the drive and back a few times,
> > Brakes would not allow a long drive.
> >
> > Idle and strong power and very little smoke, ALL the noises went
> > away. Sounded like a winner.
> >
> > let sit after stopping the motor to play with the sliding door that
> > would not let go.
> > Got the slider to work just fine.
> >
> > Decided to start the Vanagon just for fun to hear it purr. (really it
> > ran absolutely Perfect)
> >
> > Motor would turn and acted like No Compression at all no fire just
> > spin with the starter.
> >
> > Acts like No compression and spins free. No Idea. Did the lifters
> > overcharge and the valves are just floating??
> >
> > Very weird.
> >
> > Did not look deep. Just spun like no pistons were connected to the crank.
> >
> > Any one, Any one Bueller???
> >
> > Jonce
> >
>
>
>
>--
>Thanks,
>Ken Wilford
>John 3:16
>www.vanagain.com
