Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:41:00 -0400
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From: Craig Cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Brakes-
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Not meyle. I believe it's an Italian brand. They were about $10 each. Every one has the spring.
-craig
> On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think you got lucky with Meyle. GW sells the ATE for $19.95.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Craig Cowan
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Brakes-
>
> There are other brands then the ATE with the spring. I just had a set from
> ken willford (vanagain) that were well priced and did have the spring, I
> have found them to work as well as the ATE and OEM ones. Let me see If I can
> figure out the brand.
>
> -craig
>
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I know others have chimed in. the usual cause of this effect is the
>> combination of the shoes not adjusting properly and the wrong wheel
>> cylinders. The only cylinders I know of that have the piston push out
>> spring is the ATE. Even if you go to the dealer they will likely
>> supply the Brazilian sourced cylinders and they will not have the
>> spring. The pistons sucking back will cause the low pedal and require
>> a pump them out every time until some age makes them get stiff enough
>> to stay out on their own. Many cars used residual pressure checks on
>> the hydraulics to counter act this effect. Also, since the cylinders
>> and the adjusters are on the same side of the shoes, the cylinder
>> pistons have to stay out further as the shoes wear and the adjusters push
> them out.
>>
>> The next issue is the lining thickness. I have yet to find a shoe set
>> that replaces the OEM. The originals were a semi-metallic lining,
>> riveted, and 6mm above the rivets. The thinner material of the
>> replacement shoes means the drum does not get filled and the arch does
>> not match. This causes the shoes to only wear and provide friction at
>> the top. This seriously reduces the braking effect. The lower shoes
>> rests can be shimmed out. Go check the archives for articles I have posted
> in the past.
>>
>> While rare another cause of this problem can be the rear brake
>> pressure regulator. I have replaced a few.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of Geneva Saint-Amour
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:52 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Brakes-
>>
>> Hey there!
>> We recently replaced the rear brake pads and discovered a leaky cylinder.
>> So we took it to BrakeMasters for new cylinders (and new drums). Just
>> picked it up and the brakes feel great and grippy..... but the first
>> pedal-push is smooshy and close to the floor. The second pedal push
>> seems to "pump it up" and feel higher. Ideas, suggestions?
>> 1985 Vanagon/Westfalia/Hightop/Bostig