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Date:         Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:58:52 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Brakes-
Comments: To: phishman068@GMAIL.COM
In-Reply-To:  <92815788-2C51-4403-BF4C-899F2AE3B2C2@gmail.com>
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I think you got lucky with Meyle. GW sells the ATE for $19.95.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Craig Cowan Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:09 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Brakes-

There are other brands then the ATE with the spring. I just had a set from ken willford (vanagain) that were well priced and did have the spring, I have found them to work as well as the ATE and OEM ones. Let me see If I can figure out the brand.

-craig

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I know others have chimed in. the usual cause of this effect is the > combination of the shoes not adjusting properly and the wrong wheel > cylinders. The only cylinders I know of that have the piston push out > spring is the ATE. Even if you go to the dealer they will likely > supply the Brazilian sourced cylinders and they will not have the > spring. The pistons sucking back will cause the low pedal and require > a pump them out every time until some age makes them get stiff enough > to stay out on their own. Many cars used residual pressure checks on > the hydraulics to counter act this effect. Also, since the cylinders > and the adjusters are on the same side of the shoes, the cylinder > pistons have to stay out further as the shoes wear and the adjusters push them out. > > The next issue is the lining thickness. I have yet to find a shoe set > that replaces the OEM. The originals were a semi-metallic lining, > riveted, and 6mm above the rivets. The thinner material of the > replacement shoes means the drum does not get filled and the arch does > not match. This causes the shoes to only wear and provide friction at > the top. This seriously reduces the braking effect. The lower shoes > rests can be shimmed out. Go check the archives for articles I have posted in the past. > > While rare another cause of this problem can be the rear brake > pressure regulator. I have replaced a few. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf Of Geneva Saint-Amour > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:52 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Brakes- > > Hey there! > We recently replaced the rear brake pads and discovered a leaky cylinder. > So we took it to BrakeMasters for new cylinders (and new drums). Just > picked it up and the brakes feel great and grippy..... but the first > pedal-push is smooshy and close to the floor. The second pedal push > seems to "pump it up" and feel higher. Ideas, suggestions? > 1985 Vanagon/Westfalia/Hightop/Bostig


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